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  GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
First of all, we ROCKED the NMRA show! We had a location right near the front doors, with great visibility. We had 30 - 40 people around the layout at almost all times through the entire show. I saw some big HO and N gauge layouts that were several (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.announce)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Sounds very impressive. Are there any pictures of the event on-line? Congrats on what sounds like a great event. Eric (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) I think I might check into buying a copy of that myself. In the meantime, are you planning on scanning and posting the pics to the web? (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
John Gerlach wrote: [snip] (...) Congratulations!!! Please post pics. - Nick - (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) A number of times people were three deep around the layout. The best views were from inside the center of the layout though (thanks to John Neal). (...) No kidding, all the rolling stock was amazing. The stuff sitting in the yard was way cool. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Steve has a Web page set up with pics from his digital camera. I've (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Good because I won't have ours ready until sometime later this week. -john (...) front (...) detail (...) perfectly, (...) St. (...) shows (...) going (...) much (...) goals (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Yes, as J1 said, we awed them. We literally are a crowd stopper. And when I say *we*, I mean it in the larger sense, as in all of us who build cool things out of Lego. What was so impressive was not anything we did specifically, but that we did it (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
I got my pictures back from the NMRA convention today and spent a while scanning. There are 53 pictures in the following directory: (URL) will be a while before I can do a web page on these pictures so I'm sure others can answer questions on the he (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Paul, Great photos!:-) I had *just* gone to your web site to see if you had had anything posted. Thanks for all of the work scanning those pups. -John (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Have you worked your way down to the picture of yourself yet? (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Uh, yeah. I think my ugly mug crack my monitor screen;-) <but the Hiawatha diner car looks great> -John Neal is: (URL) (brace yourself;) (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
On Pic21 what's the 1st place ribbon for???? GREAT pics BTW!!!! Thanks Paul for all the details you show us! (...) Build everyday! -Tamy Follow the bouncing boxes! (URL) (mirror site) Lego isn't a toy, it's a way of life! (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) I think that was the LaCrosse train show ribbon? (...) I just took the pictures, many more thanks to the GMLTC for letting me behind the layout to get some better pictures. There were so many people around the layour it was hard to get (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Paul, it was a pleasure having you. The ribbon is the first place ribbon for GATS in December of 1998. The LaCrosse trophy is a wooden train given for "Club's Choice" of LaCrosse 1999. I just finished installing the ASPs on the new web server. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Please feel free to use my pictures, I'm glad I can contribute something to the cause. If you need originals, let me know. Paul (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) sign with the "play to build". Great work! I also have a question. On picture #30 there is something one a switch, what's that, what the purpose? Martin (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) The train yard sections are still "in progress". We're attempting to use the pneumatic system to remotely control the switches, so we can move trains around individually. (We've got breaks in the tracks so we can power each siding separately.) (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Okay, so I'm alternating between stunned and discouraged. Beautuful photos, with wonderful detail, but my poor 4x8 display looks so small now. You guys's layout really is inspiring, though. My question is about picture #27. How is that engine/tender (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
You know, this might be worthwhile for all of us to pursue. If a hundred people joined the NMRA as Lego Train modellers, that could really turn some heads. Might make some of the old-school modellers take another think. I personally think that Lego (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Rick- You are referring to one of Brian Williams' masterpieces: (URL) the risk of speaking for Brian, I can say simply that what he has done is wire the 9 volt motor to power the older 12 volt motor. I don't know *how* exactly, but this is what he (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Rick- Dude, you are right on! Those are my sediments (sic) exactly! :-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: NMRA National Convention in San Jose
 
(...) 2000 in San Jose? 25 miles from my home? Who else will be coming! :-) My round house should be ready by then, but I'm set up on the PNLTC modular table foundation. Hopefully we can get a few more table modules together by then! GMLTC could (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf.sj)
 
  Re: NMRA National Convention in San Jose
 
(...) We were discussing the posibilities last night. Who knows? The GMLTC just might show up in San Jose, if the financials can be worked out... (...) Speaking for the entire 'club', Thanks! <blush> J1 (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: NMRA National Convention in San Jose
 
(...) shows (...) Please pass another slice of humble pie this way.. :-) (...) I'm there if you guys are coming. -Tom McD. when replying, a perimeter of solid spamcake will keep ants away from any picnic. (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) -Tom McD. when replying, I sense a disturbance in the spamcake... (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Rick/John, Hi... I'm just about recovered from the trip. The locomotive that Rick asked about is powered by an old 12v mechanism with siderods. It has it's bronze power pick-ups taped-back and draws power from the tender which has a standard 9v (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
These models are awesome. I like the detail in the three dimensional landscape... the track following the river's edge and a river where the water level actually gets progressively lower: (URL) too bad TLG group doesn't have a "freestyle" or (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
I just wanted to tip my hat off to all of you that did a simply stupendous and awesome job on the convention, I have been truly inspired! This goes way beyond anything I could have imagined! I have a few comments: Did TLG (LG) ever help you in terms (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) First, *Thanks* for the kind words! TLG so far has given us two keychains, and an "Idea Book". We've contacted them a few times, and a few 'Special Events' people saw the layout at The Great Create last fall. They say "Great job, keep up the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Brian Williams wrote in message <37A2456E.240B@ameri...ch.net>... (...) Where did you guys get so many pieces? Holy shit, I've never seen a bigger train display. (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Profanity aside, one can buy LEGO sets in numerous places. Try Target, K-Mart, Wal-mart, Toys-R-Us, to name a few. Also, if one lives in the US, one is able to order via LEGO Shop-at-Home service. HTH, John (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) Tony: Whoa there, pally. Please remember that this neither Usenet/RTL nor the mens room. The gratuitous use of obscene language is actually against the Terms of Use for LUGNET, which you agreed to when you signed up for posting privileges on (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
Whew, I thought this was going to be a banning the discussion of the those 8 wides..... (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
Perish the thought!! Eight-wides will save the world! [1] -John [1] If Lar would admit that they look even *half* cool, I wouldn't have to be so annoyingly over the top about this topic;-) (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
But that is what makes you "you". (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) Well, I gotta be me. And isn't that what it's all about...me-- except when it's about Larry;-) (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) Which is: usually. Keep your hands of my macaroni. (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) ---...---^^ ?? What, is that some sort of Youngmanian code for "Take my macaroni, please"?;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
John Neal wrote in message <37A7AE70.A6B4B7A8@u...st.net>... (...) You trying to be cute? (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Ya, he is. Cuteness aside, though, it's a straight answer. All those bricks were purchased at retail. TLG did not do anything for this club whatever. Too bad we didn't all live in NZ or at least know what Sanjay was up to. (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) Hmmm, Larry has hands made of macaroni, and more, John has them? I think this goes deeper than 8-wides, eh? +---...---+ | Rob Farver - rfarver@rcn.com | | (URL) | | (URL) | +---...---+ (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) So much for infallability. I'm an f short here, boys, or as they say, "What the F"? (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
John, I saw pictures of your eight wides and I liked them....I am thinking about going wide, but going wide requires a lot of rethinking. Change is hard. Chris (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Eight-wide trains (was Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) Thank you. The best part is that it gives one more room with which to work and provides more opportunity to model more prototypically, IMHO. If that is what one is into, and I am. As far as rethinking goes, I personally find it easier. It's (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Eight-wide trains (was Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) Huh? The "-ohn" reference? Do you have a "Gallery" of eight wide creations? Chris (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Eight-wide trains (was Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
Think pig latin....Ohn-Jay Aul-Pay (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Eight-wide trains (was Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
Hey, that works! I was thinking "san" as in french for "no". "ohn" is "John" *san* J :-) (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Eight-wide trains (was Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
(...) pardonnez-moi! you mean *sans*? Martin (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Eight-wide trains (was Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
 
Yeah, well, his name ain't Sansjay! (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Maybe there are some other Lego operations being closed down that could be utilized. How would we find such information though? (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
...Love the pics... I dream that we can get a setup 1/1000th as good! But I do have a building question... ...In the pic (URL) what are those girder pieces? I dont recognize them, but they'd be darn handy! (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Those are 2x2 5h girders. They were available in black in 6444 Outback Airstrip, (URL) in red in 1682 Space Shuttle (URL) think 1682 has 8 of them. Conan has a shoebox sized bin about 1/2 full of the red ones. He parted out a LOT of 1682s. (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) I don't have quite that many in black, but I do have a bunch (parted out a BUNCH of 6444s). (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) THey look like they would be perfect for my amusement park's Drop Tower - How do I contact Conan, and what are his usual terms? Thanks, Paul Sinasohn Drop Tower seats are designed, thanks to Dave :-) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Conan is a one way street. The Lego only goes one direction;-) He laughs when we tell him the value of certain pieces he has, or what something sold for on Ebay. He does have a ton of MIB sets that he wants to eventually sell off (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Pass a message through one of the John boys. (Gerlach, Kelly, Neal). He has an antiquated mac and never surfs. (...) "<smile> Not for sale". That's his standard answer, anyway. (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Thanks, John I'll just have to keep an eye peeled for them...Maybe Frank F. will sell... (25 years ago, 11-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
In case anyone is still interested, I had to move the GMLTC layout pictures to the following location due to disk full warnings. (URL) Paul Foster (URL) (25 years ago, 11-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
Cool thanks Paul, don't want to lose track of those pics! they are some durn good eye candy :) (...) Keep Bricken' -Tamy Follow the bouncing boxes! (URL) (mirror site) Lego isn't a toy, it's a way of life! (25 years ago, 11-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) ...Ok, this is a piece we need to plan a secret night raid into LEGO headquarters to liberate... I could name at least 4,122 uses for those girders, not the least of which is to make great bridge supports... (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) Good luck, LEGO Systems Inc. runs 24 hours a day. Maybe you need to do a weekend night raid. (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Convention Coverage (was GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention)
 
So has anyone heard of any magazine coverage of the NMRA convention. What monthly issue of Model Railroader usually covers the convention? Any other mags to check? (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) ...Well, I think it might be the only choice we have! They don't take personal orders (like for the 13,592 2x4 red bricks I need), and they don't want to release good service packs (like a 20 of girders)... I think a night raid just might be (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
(...) According to a video at Legoland-California, the brick molding operation runs 24/7 but only 320 days/year. Steve (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: GMLTC at the NMRA National Convention
 
When I worked in the factory (12 years ago) we had no contact with the brick molding people. We knew where they were, and every once and a while one of them would come out with a dumpster of deformed bricks. It looks like maybe a Chistmas Eve raid (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)

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