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Not sure about pics, but keep in mind that there are a bunch of lines that run through NYC and the surrounding burroughs (1-2-3-4-5-6, A-B-C-D-E-F-G...etc.) and not all, but many have different types of cars. The 2-3 line cars are quite different (...) (24 years ago, 28-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) And here I was thinking I'd get around to doing the Red Bird from memory.... you mean we can take pictures of them first? (24 years ago, 28-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, everyone else can... you have to build from memory! :) Jake (24 years ago, 28-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) created site :-) Check out (URL) Lots of maps (also very detailed ones) and an incredible amount of pictures, with those redbirds in a special section. General information on subways: (URL) sides contain subway and other rail transport maps, (...) (24 years ago, 28-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I mainly just need a few photos of a "typical" nyc subway car and any photos of stations. Details of what sort of things you find in stations (what shops and/or vending machines) would be usefull. (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The nycsubway.org site (sp?) given earlier has all that info and then some. If anything it has TOO MUCH info. Fascinating reading though. NYC stations are pretty barren, people don't dawdle around, and machines would get vandalized/robbed. (...) (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I will try to grab some pics tonight. As far as vending and shops, I haven't really seen any vending to speak of other than the machines that sell the metrocard passes. With shops, lots of stations have newsstands that are built into the (...) (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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Actually, if your station is supposed to date from the current "Reign of King Giuliani," all of the legless panhandlers have been whisked away somewhere. I haven't seen one sitting in a station since 1997. The panhandlers who can stand up do still (...) (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I mentioned it because I saw one Monday nite, although he was working the train rather than the station... he scooted on at 53rd/lex (this was on a 6 train) and was with us to Union Square where I detrained. ++Lar (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) There arent as many panhandlers as in previous years, but I see them all the time. (among other interesting things). King Guiliani has cleaned things up, but the 'army' can't be everywhere at once. Jonathan (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Whist I cannot speak of the NY subway, I can attest to Toronto. TO has kiosks in quite a few of the stations, and the buskers are licensed (and Subway Elvis didn't do it!) The reason why the tile schemes are different in the stations is to (...) (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:G9JDo8.6J4@lugnet.com... (...) Toonerville?! Kind of embarasing to hear it called that... What on Earth is that suposed to mean? It's "rt" or "SRT"... or "Scarborough RT". :-/ (...) (...) (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) not another closet Mr T fan??? ROSCO FUT: lugnet.off-topic.fun (24 years ago, 1-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Come on, I own the first public transfer issued by McCowan station, at something like 5:58 on the first day of the RT opening. I'm just not happy with the fact that it goes nowhere-I mean, yes, it's nice to be able to go to a shopping mall in (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I haven't been in the NYC subways enough to know, but there sure is some interesting stuff in Boston's T stations. Some inspirations I would take from the T: - Track leading off into dark tunnel to nowhere - Old traction equipment which is (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Argh--now I have extra homework. (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes: <Extolls the virtues of Boston as a source of proto inspiration> (...) Well Boston DOES have Acela, it leaves from South Station. But it's not all that high speed till it clears the in town trackage... Of all the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's been years since I've been on the T or even driving in Boston, but I forgot about those electric buses. Way cool. And the T on Commonwealth ave, I used to love riding that.... One thing I have (...) I never thought of that, it makes (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) There's even just a bit of El. on the Green Line (though I think it's dramatically reduced from what it once was). I think they're running a restored PCC on the Green Line now for special occaisions. At least one of those stations has a couple (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The T gets pretty crowded at rush hour also. I'm mostly thinking of the graffitti, though I supose some of that may be put on during the day. I guess it's possible that Boston has somewhat better behaved people (1), but I've been surprised at (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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Thanks for describing Park St. Station, that was exactly what I was thinking of when I said "complex underground trackage" but I couldn't remember the name. I forgot that I have a T map in my computer bag, as well as a T token, a BART card with some (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Because all the criminals hate riding the T??? :-) FUT .fun ++Lar (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) It took me a minute to realise you meant Charles/MGH. :D That intersection isn't *that* bad. You just have to learn how to drive in Boston, that's all. We're all really good drivers here- perhaps you're just not up to scratch. eric (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) So's Rainman... what's your point? :-) I dunno if it's actually true though. I haven't met a Boston driver I couldn't beat through a squeezedown (think the merges on old I 93 coming into downtown, or the merge shuffle to get to the callahan (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Note that even with the wide swing they still loose contact between the trolley poles and the electricity. Actually I have seen this quite often, usually the bus just costs to the side of the street and the driver gets out and there is a wheel (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I don't notice much graffitti on the subways in NY. Next to none, I think. The Welcome Back Kotter days are over as far as that is concerend. They've really done a good job cleaning that up. There is graffitti in the tunnels though. But none (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) There was a Train store in the Natick Mall that at one point had an small-scale (I don't know all the train scales, I want to say this was HO but that could be wrong, I think N is the tiny one, right?) Green Line trolley. I was so taken with (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I haven't been on quite everything. I've never been on the Mattapan Extension, or even down to Ashmont. I think I've just been as far as Quincy Adams (I used to have a friend in Quincy, but I don't think the line even extended all the way to (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) HO. I've always considered getting that LRV model. One of my friends in high school was a real subway fan and his model railroad actually was a transit layout, complete with a subway station. He told me of exploring the nether reaches of the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:G9Jq9A.HJp@lugnet.com... (...) Then what's with calling it the Toonersville Trolley? The rt is far from a trolley, and it's very misleading to those who read the group, who were (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) THAT'S what that noise is?! WOW, that makes sense! And MAN, it's a SCREEE...EEECH. You'd think they were dragging a 4'x8' slab of sheet metal across the tracks. --Todd (24 years ago, 2-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3aa03359.351644...net.com... (...) Are there any diagrams online of the track layout at Park Street? That would be very interesting, IMO. After visiting New York, however, the T is a tinker (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos)
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(...) I would reserve the term "tinker toy" for the San Francisco cable car, which is actually made of wood. (24 years ago, 3-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos)
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(...) Couple of comments: 1. CLRV's are prototypical on Boston tracks, I have a photo of 4029 alongside a LRV in Boston...the contrast is kind of neat (CLRV=Canadian Light Rail Vehicle, built by UTDC/SIG 2. TTC tokens can be spoffed using aluminum (...) (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I _think_ that the habit came from Scarborugh mayor (female, forget name). I _know_ that I picked it up, rather than calling it the toonerville trolley from the start....just force of habit I guess. I would have rather seen CLRV's on the RT (...) (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:G9r5D8.8t3@lugnet.com... (...) I (...) from (...) on (...) it (...) Would you rather have seen CLRV's (why not ALRV's?) operating at tighter headways? (curious) Iain (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Either or (CLRV or ALRV) (I think of them as the same, even though they are not quite). I would rather seen the streetcars, because it would have made it possible to get streetcars back into Scarborough, whereas ICTS is never going to get (...) (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:G9sGnC.HzM@lugnet.com... (...) are not (...) going Why is it important to get streetcars into Scarborough? I think we need to be moving ahead with transit, not backward. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains)
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