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    new 2003 sets —Paul Kleniewski
   take from lugnet.year.2003 rick cuijpers send (URL) i suppesed new pneumatics appears pistons without brick at the bottom and valves without studs (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets —Thomas Avery
     (...) comeback). I hadn't seen that one before. I guess I was too focused on the set with 9-cylinders :-) TJ (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Tobbe Arnesson
      (...) I don't think it was leaked but YAY! Oh, and the Backhoe is still nice :) /Tobbe (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Steven Lane
      (...) I agree, that truck is cool and I'm actually going to have to go out and buy a NEW Lego set (The backhoe), at full price, haven't done that in a long while. So much for those doom mongers who said Technic was dead. Well done Lego. Steve (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Frank Buiting
      (...) More pictures: (URL) guess these pictures also interest starwars and train fans. -Frank ps. when discussing the models on the pictures, please keep discussion in the correct groups. (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)  
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Frank Buiting
       (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.trains, lugnet.starwars)  
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Sonnich Jensen
       Pretty cool... I really like the new age marking 8-99 !!!...!!! I wonder how well the space shuttle will sell.... Frank Buiting <felsir@chello.nl> wrote in message news:H9qMuF.CFy@lugnet.com... (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.trains, lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Stefan Garcia
       Now that's a bit of irony, those space sets. Imagine if they had chosen Colombia instead of Discovery... Regardless...SWEETNESS!!! Except for the continuing death of studs in Technic, this year's line rocks! Those sculptured noses, those boxcar (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.trains, lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Stefan Garcia
       I think I figured out the part that makes up the nose of the ICE train. It's a differently patterned version of the nose of this plane: (URL) Jack Stone! Gagh. -Stefan- (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Jason J. Railton
       (...) the top/back edge. It's already used the other way up in Zam Wessel's speeder <set:7133>. The train piece isn't as tall, and clearly you can build on top of it. Jason J Railton (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Stefan Garcia
       That's not the same part as in the nose of the 4619. On second look though, you're about that part being too tall to be the one in the ICE. But it is a variant or complement to that nose piece in 4619. Look at the bottom, by the green stripe on this (...) (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Frank Buiting
       (...) oops, forgot to crosspost to trains and starwars. (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.trains, lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Kecia Hansen
       (...) Weird, that the 4511 HST is now in white/green rather than previous images showing it in white/red colours... It's also dissapointing, that it only has one car. You really need two sets, to make a decent train... The freight train seems to be (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Tobbe Arnesson
       (...) <set:4565> is not in the 2003 catalog so it looks like it's being discontinued. Best regards, /Tobbe (URL) SPAM when e-mailing) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —David Graham
       Thanks for sharing the 2003 pictures. It is good to see the product development. The display are staged (with the set numbers) to show what you get with each set. I wondered if there was any more information say telling you if there is a speed (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Jason J. Railton
       Thanks for sharing these pictures. (...) In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes: (...) I think it would have been good to have a model of the ICE, but since it's not a good copy the colour doesn't bother me. So long as this isn't a set with track and (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Ronald Vallenduuk
       Looks like Lego were lucky when they picked the name for the Space Shuttle... Duq "Frank Buiting" <felsir@chello.nl> wrote in message news:H9qLpD.92L@lugnet.com... (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Tim Strutt
       (...) Actually, in my opinion, if the set were named Columbia, it would be a bigger seller, as it would now be a souvenir, or memorabilia for this recent tragic event. Sales-wise I'd call it unlucky. Just my $0.02 worth. Play well. Tim Strutt (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Jason J. Railton
       (...) No, they'd never be able to pull it off without a lot of negative publicity. It only takes one complaint to scupper everything. As it is, I suspect there'll be several delays and serious reviews before they finally decide to release it. Even (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Jonathan Wilson
       (...) get my money. Just wish I didnt have to wait 6 months to get it tho :( (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Tim Strutt
       (...) I love the age posted on the helicopter box (4403). 0-99!!!! Yay! Tim Strutt (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Frank Buiting
       (...) Even more pictures appeared... (URL) in the German forum the photographer added this comment (added translation below): Ich habe ganz einfach gefragt ob ich denn fotografieren dürfe und dies bekam ich darauf zu hören: "fotografieren Sie soviel (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space) ! 
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Kecia Hansen
        (...) Love the ISS! The snowboard ramp looks fun too... Kecia (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Tobbe Arnesson
        (...) once more (as found in <set:8446>) and in the correct number too! (...) <<snip>> (...) So why is there not an absolute ton of them OnLine yet? Don't get me wrong, I am very thankful for what we get and it seems we'll get bits and pieces (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: new 2003 sets —Mark Jordan
        (...) I am delighted with the lack of mini-figs. Lack of mini-figs means the Lego designers are entirely free to choose the scale to suit the subject (and I guess the parts budget for the set). I have noticed this year that there are many more sets (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: new 2003 sets —Henrik Johansson
       (...) Ahhh! That 7471 Mars rover is just screaming for me to add my RCX:s to it! I want it NOW! (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.space, lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets —Jeff McClain
      (...) No one even mentioned what looks like a mini millenium falcon there. I CAN'T wait for the AT-AT and that backhoe 8455!!! Even that truck looks pretty good, and I typically don't like the "specialty" parts that that set has for all the smooth (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Dennis Bosman
      (...) Indead. Some parts are special and very expensive on Bricklink (e.g. the 75 inverted slopes and 4 studs long pieces with round top). Very usefull! Dennis (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Adrian Egli
     "TJ Avery" <tjavery@texbrick.com> wrote in message news:H9qHFq.JFL@lugnet.com... (...) Now THAT'S what I've been waiting to see :-) I figured Technic was not completely dead; just seeing what is in the 2003 Pitsco gave me some assurance. But that (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets —Kirby Warden
     This stuff is great!! I remember about three years ago, Lego said it would be about three years before they could begin emerging from the Junior Age. I've been waiting patiently for this to actually occur and am pleased that they stuck to their (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Jason J. Railton
     (...) All the spacecraft are brilliant - I particularly like the Arianne 5 and the shuttle. The truck is amazing, though I think the helicopter and boat are a little too plain. They're clearly intended to compete with the MegaBloks models of this (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Kirby Warden
      (...) I don't mind the helo and boat being a little plane-looking. And I am also sure they are intended to compete with MegaBloks. But I don't buy MB and have been waiting for this stuff from Lego for about three years now! MB is too laden with 2x4 (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets —Tobbe Arnesson
     <<snip>> (...) I think the boat is part of the new creator line where you buy a box of LEGO and get suggestions for several models, one box focus on animals <set:4101> while others go towards robots, mecha, fishes etc.. That line is due in April. (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.modelteam)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
   take a closer look at 8455 IMHO it has more than 9 pistons near the right rear stake there is one valve positioned in other way i think its valve to control rotation of arm so is has to have 10 or even 11 pistons (and there is 2 pumps) what do you (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) Indeed it seems like your right! Zoomes in some more on the photo... (...) I think as follow, front to aft pneumatics only: 1) Two pistons to tilt bucket, clearly showing, and new type of piston w/o bottom 2x2, I dislike it 'cause it will be (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
       "Tobbe Arnesson" <StPnAtM@lotek.nu> wrote in message news:H9u01y.Fpr@lugnet.com... <cut> (...) imo there is a part (URL) it mean the front wheels are suspensioned? :))) (...) in older pictures there was no engine (...) the (...) for me its about (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
      (...) It could, but I don't think so. Suspension and a pneumatic pump on top does not seem like a very good mix, but who knows? /Tobbe (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) There could still be a springless tilting suspension, the kind which always keeps all four wheels on the ground, even with some uneven surface. This is the kind you would typically see on the front wheels of a real vehicle like this. I don't (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
      (...) Yeah, you're right! There seems to be a ball joint towards the chassis which don't make sence if it don't have suspension. (...) The old photo is of no help other then to verify the front wheel steering. /Tobbe (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
     <snip> (...) I found an easy solution to piston stacking: (URL) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
      (...) but it's smart solution i'll use it in next ver of my hoist if you don't mind regards pixel (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
      (...) Thanks. It is strong also. (...) Be my guest. (...) Kevin (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) (URL) point was all of these solutions is impossible with the new cylinder since it lacks the 2 x 2 "brick" in the bottom. /Tobbe (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
     (...) order (...) a (...) I know. Actually you said it was more difficult. I doubt it is impossible. When I get 8455 I'll have to see what I can do. I've not had a chance to work on back to back small pistons, but I will when I get to the project (...) (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) What I meant as impossible is the two solutions found abouve since you no longer can attach studs on the bottom of the piston. I'm sure the pistons still can be attached back-to-back in another manner, hence more difiicult. But who knows? (...) (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Paul Kleniewski
      "Tobbe Arnesson" <StPnAtM@lotek.nu> wrote in message news:H9xI82.E49@lugnet.com... (...) i know it would not to keep the line of lego elements but maybe new pistons have one half of hole as pin and the second half as alxe hole it would solve much, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Marco Berti
   (...) I had the chance to play with it at the Nurnberg Toy Fair, 10 piston, 2 pumps , no air tank :( It has new pistons and new valve. marco (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) I notice that the new valves and cylinders are more "technicified", i.e., they no longer have stud connection, but rather a connection via technic pins/axles. I think that this appears to be a good idea, it makes them easier to incorporate in (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Thomas Avery
     (...) Yes, I agree. However, I'd rather see them with axle holes instead of smooth holes. Regardless, I'm amazed and very happy to see this new set! -TJ (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Kevin Clague
   I'm envious that you got to play with this already Marco. I'm certainly buying it. It will be interesting to see what else I can make with that list of parts. 10 pistons is a lot! Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Marco Berti
   (...) I had a few minutes free time while attending the show, so I took the chance ... Just the time to realize that is a very nice model but that without airtank, even with the two pump, you pump , make a movement, had to pump again before making a (...) (22 years ago, 5-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Avi Parvin
   By the way, did anyone notice that those two versions of 8455 ar not the same? (URL) I guess you saw the second one. Avi Parvin (...) (22 years ago, 6-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Tobbe Arnesson
   (...) As I wrote here: (URL) between the leaked Marz photo and this photo: 1) A lot more dark grey in the new (my sp-check suggested darker grey :) ). 2) Pneumatic pump has been moved down into the cab and doubled, there were only one 3) The (...) (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new 2003 sets: 8455 —Allan Portillo
   (...) I really like this model. Well done lego, the legendary technic is back. The rear wheels do not appear to be those from the 8466 off-roader. They seem to be smaller like the RC car, which means it has new bubble tyres. I wonder why the (...) (22 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)
 

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