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Subject: 
I must leave...
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Date: 
Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:38:36 GMT
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I can’t take it anymore!

I have noticed a stream of immaturity and bickering that has gone too far.

First, there are the SciBrick incidents. I can’t understand what is going on here. The members involved were some of the most highly respected AFOL’s before they began bickering like children. Now I know that no one is perfect, and that we all make mistakes. But LUGNET is a place were AFOL can share there experience and joy of building with Legos with other people. Can’t we just either drop these petty arguments of “he did this, but he did this” and most especially “he started it” or at least not argue in public! In case anyone has forgotten, AFOL stand for “Adult Fan Of Lego”, with emphasis on the ADULT! Please guys, I have never been so embarrassed by any community before. We already get comments that we’re children because we play with Legos; we don’t need to prove such comments by acting like children.

And then this! I don’t even want to comment to anyone about this. Everyone knows who is wrong (including himself).

I am deeply depressed by all of these petty feuds. I hate to say this (possibly it’s insensitive to some and even cliché), But I spoke to Travis once last summer over e-mail. He had seemed like a pertinent and kindly member of the community. I asked him if this was the place for me. He described it as a friendly congregation of AFOL’s that would delight and inspire me. He had no idea that this would happen.

The point of this post though is not just to say that I have had enough of this, but to show it. As of January 1st, 2005, I will officially leave this forum. Not that I will leave Lego. I won’t let anyone ruin that for me. But action is needed. Someone needs to show that this is a public forum, and that everyone can see how foolish certain members are acting.

I plan to post a “Merry Christmas” post on the 26th (which was going to be a surprise) based off of Jon Palmer’s bot designs (with no credit to me except the camera - which actually belongs to my brother).

I’m sorry to those of you who make this an amazing forum. Mark, I really enjoy and appreciate all that you’ve done. And to the others””, I wish I could stay but this entire situation is making me sick.

Blay On, Devin

““Also to the other AFOLs, who have been mature, thank you for all of the pictures of your amazing MOCs. I have a huge folder on my spare hard drive with tons of pictures of your stuff. It’s amazing inspiration. I’ll still keep up my brickshelf folder, and will be watching for what you put out! Thank you again.



Message has 13 Replies:
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) ...where AFOLs can share their... (...) ...AFOL stands for... Sorry for the grammer. I was a little flusted when I wrote this. Blay On, Devin (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) This sort of thing happens in any online forum, anywhere you go. Adults usually don't act like adults. This is a fact of life. I think almost all of us are guilty of making at least one post that could be considered childish or rash. If you (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) Hi. From the way you write this, I fear that you are insinuating that I am to blame for this. I am given this impression by the fact that you single out my post, not the thread as a whole. This gives the impression that my post is symptomatic (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) You know, it's remarkably easy to ignore most of the bickering, whining, complaining, and rabble rousing and focus on the MOCs. I've done it for years. But, if you have leave, well, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Oh, and to any (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
  Re: I must leave...
 
I have to say my bit. I'm brand new here. I've posted one MOC, which I hope some of you enjoyed. ANyway, if people are being idiots here I have to remember one thing, we're all nerds here. We're adults who play with Lego. We know whats fun and we (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) snip (...) Devin, Please don't take this personally. I don't really post here very often nor do you so we really don't know each other. I really have never understood the point of these "everything sucks, I'm leaving" posts. If you are looking (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
  Re: I must leave...
 
Hello Devin, Well, I shall be sorry to see you go if you really must, but I hope you will reconsider. You've offered me encouragement on more than one occasion and I appreciate that. I know I never replyed to (URL) your response to my bots,> but I (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) I'll take the heat for that. Please don't let it reflect on SciBrick's good name and the AFoLs that are, the organization, or Sci-Fi and Fantasy fans. Rather it be said it was an unfortunate set of circumstances where people working together (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) I just noticed this by accident. As someone who has been here for quite some time along with Adrian and Mark, I'm going to agree with them and say trust the experience of those of us who've been here for a long time. Even I have made "I'm (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) Devin, don't take it all too personally. Bickering happens even in the best of families. I have noticed that the sniping between folks happens in a lot of different chat groups, it isn't just lugnet. Having all these creative Lego juices (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  It might be necessary to regroup elsewhere (was: Re: I must leave...)
 
Well, I can't blame you. And, while the loss of yet another AFOL weakens not only the community but also weakens the projects and richness of what some AFOLs are trying to do with their hobbies, you have to do what you have to do. In truth, I myself (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
I was going to ignore this, but I decided against. I mean, deciding to leave a forum because of a few spats? I know someone else pointed out that ANY community is going to have its spats and drama. (...) Let me point out: All effort was made to make (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) Tips for enjoying lugnet: Post as often as possible to MOCs. Never post a MOC comment that doesn't include at least something positive. If those two statements conflict, dig deeper for something nice to say. Give and receive criticism with a (...) (20 years ago, 17-Dec-04, to lugnet.space, FTX) ! 

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