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| | | My wife and I are buying a house and she wants us to sell our indulgences. So I am selling my Lego collection, and I was wondering how much interest there is in the Lego community to buy MOC of the Gunstar from The Last Starfighter. Here are some (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | (...) design. I'd also tell my wife where she could stick it if she told me to sell off my LEGO. -Grand Admiral .space Curator (URL) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | | | (...) I know this will probably get me stuffed into an airlock and ejected from the mother ship, but chill out, dude! First of all, this doesn't look like somebody who is trying to profit from anything. He's selling off his toys to recoup some of (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm only replying to this portion of the post because this contains my whole point. I have no problem whatsoever with him copying or rebuilding one of my designs for his OWN enjoyment. I have seen his Gunstar on brickshelf before and was (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think the truth is that Ryan will discover the same thing that many others have. It is very difficult to re-sell anything made out of LEGO for a profit. I could see your beef if he took one of your designs verbatim, LDRAW-ed up an (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Scott Lyttle
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| | | | | | | | (...) Chris, keep the fire suit on, then do a search on "Bram Lambrecht" where someone copied one of his car designs...then tried to profit on it... Likewise, If you're selling your Lego collection, makes me wonder how die-hard a Lego fan you are... (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | | | | (...) I don't think that somebody's level of "die-hardness" (?) has any bearing on this discussion. But the Bram Lambrecht incident certainly does. Grab yourself a cold beverage, get comfortable, and read this nice piece of armchair lawyering: (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Jeff Byrd
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| | | | | | | | This debate doesn't belong in .starwars for starters, but here goes. Now for those of you who don't agree with/like someone copying your designs, try this - Go get a brick by brick design patent on it! Then, and only then, will you have a legal (...) (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Steven Lane
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| | | | | | | (...) Wait a minute. You copied the design of the Gunstar in the first place. Maybe Mr Schamp should pay a royalty to whoever designed the Gunstar in the first place? :-) It's a copy of a copy. Steve (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Gil Shaw
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| | | | | | (...) You could sell your wife and keep the Lego? Just kidding! Just kidding! Anne's suggestion of selling the models broken down to parts as a collection sale may be your best option. Make sure to post to Lugnet, FBTB and Auctionbrick if you (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Anne Carasik
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| | | | | | (...) I would ;) (...) Seriously, I want to know what life is about without indulgences. I mean you're buying a house--not entering the Peace Corps. (...) There are a lot of examples of people selling their entire collections, especially on Ebay, on (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Patrick Bunn
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| | | | | (...) I think you should break down your collection back into the original sets or collections of parts or some other form of lots. I buy alot of LEGO on Ebay but I'm never searching for MOCs, it's either parts, or star wars sets or parts from star (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Anne Carasik
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| | | | | If you REALLY need to sell your LEGOS, either sell them on Ebay, Bricklink or AuctionBrick. I'd sell them as one collection, and see if someone local to you wants to buy them so you don't have to ship them. 1) You'll make the most money off of it 2) (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Jon Palmer
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| | | | | (...) I know what it's like to need money and have to sell your MOCs. I understand how that can hurt. But what you're doing right now is wrong. You are not respecting Mark and you are not respecting the community. The Gunstar is not your MOC to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Jonathan Mizner
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| | | | | | | (...) On the contrary, he is indeed respecting Mark by making it very clear that Mark Sandlin was the original designer of the model, and by stating that multiple times. Furthermore, the Gunstar IS his model to sell, because he owns the parts and (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Jon Palmer
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| | | | | | | | (...) As usual Mizner you're being an outspoken punk who doesn't know what he's talking about. But I've fallen for your troll so I'm going to address your points. Your weird X-wing argument has nothing to do with the matter at hand. It's also a poor (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | | (...) I'll concede that the Grand Admiral has some intellectual property rights here that are being ignored by Ryan's attempt to sell a model adapted from Mark's design. And for the record, I think it would be bad form for Ryan to sell this model (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —David Rabadan
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| | | | | (...) When we look at the amount of money involved in purchasing a house I just don't see how selling the Gunstar is going to get you closer to the money you need. I would have to agree with the others and suggest that, if you have that many Legos (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Joel Kuester
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| | | | | (...) Hiya, I can speak with hindsight so please bear with me here. I sold off a collection of over 300,000 parts last year. I won't try to discourage you from selling your collection if that is what you really WANT to do. I would recommend against (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Dan Mattia
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| | | | | (...) Are you crazy or just stupid (I don't mean that as a diss)? Don't sell your LEGO models/pieces/etc. That's not right. It's just...wrong. Your LEGO pieces have probably been accumulated over years worth of time and money. If you sell them, (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Travis Matheson
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| | | | | (...) I just felt I should step into this, a few issues have been raised (...) I'm afraid I have to disagree, It is not wrong. it may not be nice, desirable or even good. But the fact that some have reservations about it does not make it wrong. (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Ryan Schamp
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| | | | | | | Well I caused quit the ruckus and I suppose I should try and respond. I’m a little hesitant because I am more likely then not going to make things worse on me but here goes: 1. My wife: Somehow she became a villain and that is my fault. I suggested (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, I'm not really all that upset about it. I just stated my opinion on the matter. I don't hate you or anything. I don't really think my original post was "nasty" unless you're really thin skinned, which you don't seem to be. Anyway, it's (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Jon Palmer
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| | | | | | | | (...) I appreciate the good things you've said. I also appreciate that you've come in here to try and work this out. This thread got pretty silly real quick. I'm just trying to look out for Mark and stand up for what I think is right. I admit that (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | | (...) The point is *not* whether Mark owns the design or not. The point is that Mark will feel cheated. If I were in Mark's shoes (hey, wait, I have been in the same situation...like 3 times), I'd feel the same way. By selling his Gunstar, Ryan (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Travis Matheson
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| | | | | | (...) I agree Bram, I made that point in my post, I can completely understand why Mark feels cheated. my point isn't where the inspiration of where Ryan's MOC came from, but it's just that when I first read Mark's post it felt to me as if it was a (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Selling my MOC Gunstar (maybe) —Steve Hickman
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| | | | There has been a lot of talk about the legality and morality of selling your inspired MOCs, but I' going to stray from that for a second and toss my opinion into the ix. Okay, here it goes. They way I see it building with lego is a skill that needs (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars)
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