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In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Ryan Schamp wrote:
> > My wife and I are buying a house and she wants us to sell our indulgences.
> > So I am selling my Lego collection, and I was wondering how much interest
> > there is in the Lego community to buy MOC of the Gunstar from The Last
> > Starfighter. Here are some pictures:
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35803
> >
> > So please tell me if you think it would sell well on Ebay and what a fair
> > price for it would be.
> >
> > I have a few other MOCs that someone might be interested in:
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=25936
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=13451
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=24208
> >
> > Do you think I should try to sell these as well? Any comments you have
> > would be appreciated greatly.
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan
>
> I know what it's like to need money and have to sell your MOCs. I understand
> how that can hurt. But what you're doing right now is wrong.
>
> You are not respecting Mark and you are not respecting the community. The
> Gunstar is not your MOC to sell.
>
> Can you sell it? Of course you can. Mark isn't going to sue you or anything.
> But should you? God no.
>
> The internet has obviously created this sort of liquid exchange of ideas and
> information. I understand this. I actually adore it. I understand that once
> something has been created now (song, movie, lego creation) that it's going
> to spread like a virus all over the place.
>
> But you aren't just 'downloading' his Gunship for your own enjoyment. You
> aren't even sharing it like an mp3. You're trying to sell it. You're trying
> to make money off of Mark's hard work.
>
> I can't possibly think of a worse way to leave an impression on all of us.
> Why some of the other posters like Chris don't get this just confuses the
> hell out of me but oh well.
I'll concede that the Grand Admiral has some intellectual property rights here
that are being ignored by Ryan's attempt to sell a model adapted from Mark's
design. And for the record, I think it would be bad form for Ryan to sell this
model intact if Mark really wants to assert his IP rights that strongly. (Hint:
Take it apart and put the pieces in a ziploc bag and sell "the parts to make
your own copy of the Gunstar" and Mark has no claim whatsoever.)
But my original point was that Mark should lighten up. Ryan does not appear to
have set out trying to profit from stealing someone else's design, he's just
trying to sell off his collection which happens to be built into a model that is
based on Mark's. Ryan isn't trying to hide the fact that he copied from Mark,
he openly attributes this model to Mark, which is a lot more than many builders
who post pictures up here do. If he hadn't given credit to Mark in the first
place, the Admiral would not even be able to prove that this was a copy. The
point being that Ryan has demonstrated nothing but good faith, and his reward is
to get smacked upside the head by someone who he clearly admired at one time.
In any event, Ryan is very unlikely to even recoup his original investment in
brick, let alone actually turn a profit from this.
On the other hand, Mark's model is based on a ship design that is a copyrighted
work. So although he may own his particular design for building that ship out
of LEGO, he is still on reasonably shaky ground to get this bent over such a
simple thing. Anything he can blame Ryan of doing, he has already done himself
to the original copyright holder simply by posting pictures of his own Gunstar.
Mark's animated sig is another example of playing fast and loose with someone
else's IP. Like it or not, the classic space logo is a copyrighted work owned
by none other than TLC. I guess we should at least be thankful that his ego box
isn't 1600 pixels wide.
It's not that Mark doesn't have the right to get his muffin in a twirl over
this, but it is not really very cool of him to make a big stink about it. What
harm does it do to him for Ryan to sell his model? Is he losing sales of his
own kits? But somehow he'd be happier if Ryan was forced to disassemble a
perfectly fine model just so he doesn't have to feel slighted.
Frankly, if you want to talk about leaving a bad impression, Mark getting so
completely upset over such a small thing really does it for me. Get over
yourself, dude.
- Chris.
FUT lugnet.market.theory
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