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| | | In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote: <snip> (...) If I were to read etween these lines, would the 4 current MUPs be involved in the selection process of the 100? And what can I bribe you with? Dave K (19 years ago, 16-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | (...) They've listened to us in the past. But, they've made no commitments to listen to us again. But that doesn't mean I can't ask. So, what would YOU do? Steve (19 years ago, 16-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Geoffrey Hyde
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| | | | | I'd ask for them to extend the trial number of people they're selecting up to any number between the current limit and 1000 but I don't have any idea what their manufacturing capabilities are. If they really wanted good opinions, how about (...) (19 years ago, 16-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Mr S
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| | | | | (...) I'd like to see how much can be done with the Bluetooth and I/O with respect to the RCX and intermixing the two sets. I'd like to add BT to current designs, and having to purchase only one NXT for that would be brilliant. (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | (...) I'd build simple contraptions that aren't necessarily predictable. Machines that move and respond are great but the fun lies in stochastic behaviour. I'm thinking that activities that aren't at least a little bit random are boring. Random (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Alexander Sack
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| | | | | | | (...) Rafe, I think that's actually what LEGO really wants anyway. The bottom line is the NXT is targeted at kids (of all ages) and needs to be at the very least, FUN! :-)! Btw, I too would be more than happy to just build a lot of stuff using the (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | | | (...) Rafe - you could have replaced that whole paragraph with a simple sentence: "I would build GBC modules." :) Bryan (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —David Koudys
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| | | | | (...) What would I do? I'd build robots that beat your robots, like I always do, Steve ;) K, I admit it--it happened only once.... Seriously, I'm more of a builder--I'll leave the development of various software additions and sensor builds to (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —dan miller
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| | | | | | (...) I would try to figure out how to program this thing with a more powerful language, and see what it's really capable of. Someone has to be the Kekoa of NXT. (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) More powerful than what? (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —dan miller
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| | | | | | (...) Good question... My understanding is that something like LabView, which has been used by FLL and others for some time now, is being shipped with NXT. If there are other choices you can talk about, please do! I'm also *very* interested in (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | (...) Interesting that nobody picked up on this from the LEGO site: (URL) to the MINDSTORMS Education NXT software, Bluetooth also enables the computer to communicate to several NXT devices at the same time." This tends to imply that the retail (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Mr S
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| | | | | | | | | --- Ross Crawford <ross.{mylastname}@gmail.com> wrote: <SNIP> (...) It may ship with more features, but I'm betting that AFOLs have it figured out before the NXT sets are on backorder ... around Aug 20th or so. (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) The only discernable difference so far can be gleanned from the published announcements of the retail and educational versions; Rechargeable battery pack not mentioned as available for retail. Legacy motor and sensor connecting wire also not (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | | | | | "John Barnes" <barnes@sensors.com> wrote in message news:ItAMx5.19AL@lugnet.com... (...) I assume The NXT will use 6 - 1.5v alakline batteries for a 9v system. Maybe the rechargable pack is a 9.6v nicd or nimh (preferrably). I haven't studied the (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Especially when they are subcutaneous with explosive anti-tamper devices! :) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) No problem, John - we'll just reverse-engineer that as well! Here, just hold still... just a minute, I've almost got it... >BOOM<. oops. hehe. Um, anbody want to step up for the next attempt? This time I'll use something other than a brick (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Juergen Stuber
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| | | | | | | | | Hi Ross, (...) I'm sure third-party environments won't have this limitation. More interesting is whether a NXT Brick can be a Bluetooth master, so that NXTs can talk with each other without a host, form networks and swarm all over the place :-) (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) As a software engineer, I'd have to ask why LEGO would choose to write (and support) two versions of the software. And, how accurate are the marketing specs (that may have been written six or eight months ago) for a product that may still be (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Juergen Stuber
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) actually it can (as had to be expected), according to the press release for the developer program. "Developers will be encouraged to let their imaginations run wild, building robots that communicate with each other or remote devices through (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Dennis Clark
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, THAT sure stinks. What's the deal on that? Have we hobbyists become second class LEGO citizens to the educational market? Why even bother to have two different release trails? LEGO, what's up with that? DLC (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Ka-On Lee
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| | | | | | | | | (...) It's probably a software cost issue. National Instrument would want more money for the more capable version of the software. (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —steve
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I would bet good money that more hobbyists will want to have multiple NXT's talking to each other than educationalists. I can see LegOS (or something similar in concept) implementing bluetooth drivers. I can't see myself using Lego software on (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I can, for at least two reasons: (a) It will likely exist at ship-time. I don't know that the same can be said of a BrickOS port (or a NQC port, which is actually where I'd like to go). (b) The LEGO software may be able to do a lot of things, (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —steve
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I use Linux on all my PC's - the Lego software won't even run - so *FOR SURE* I won't be using the Lego software. I doubt it'll be very hard to figure out how to get gcc to compile for the NXT...but if nobody else has it figured out by then, (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Ah, OK - you're correct, the unavalibility of a supported environment *IS* a very good reason :-). Actually, I was in a similar situation with getting into Mindstorms initally, as all I had was a Mac. Then, somebody mentioned there was a (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | | | (...) It depends on how rich the environment. If they are only talking specifically about getting us a crippled language then I would agree, but if NXT is really going to be engaging then in typical LEGO fashion they might present challenges and (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: How many people signed up for the NXT Developer's Program? —John Hansen
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| | | | | | (...) I'm wondering what it means to be "something like LabView". Robolab is something like LabView, but it isn't LabView. It is a GUI application written in G running in the LabView runtime engine. LabView itself (i.e., the editor and the (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | What would I do and why would I do what I don't want to do :) —Michael Obenland
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| | | | (...) My first idea is porting brickOS to the nxt. That could be cool, using more memory, better motors, better sensors, even the bluetooth, wow... But... When I look at me (and at some of the answers from fellow AFOLS), I'm not shure how Mindstorms (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: What would I do and why would I do what I don't want to do :) —Alexander Sack
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| | | | (...) Mike, a really good post. I know the geek inside all of us wants to explore and hack away at the NXT since it is literally a new toy. But for the Developer's Program, I'm going to take a leap of faith and claim that LEGO will really like to (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: What would I do and why would I do what I don't want to do :) —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | (...) <snipped> (...) Agreement here all around. Mike's post hit well with what I was trying to say last night: what can NXT do when in the hands of someone who doesn't have all the technical acumen of the people who tend to post to this list? (...) (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: What would I do and why would I do what I don't want to do :) —Jamie Bliss
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| | | | (...) Possibly within (URL) BrickWiki>? If you prefer a seperate area, we can set that up for you. Or you can just use Category:NXT. Talk to me (Astronouth7303) or Venkatesh if you're interested. (19 years ago, 17-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
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