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  Cheap Mindstorms Motors
 
I noticed that Toys R US in central Ohio have deeply discounted Lego Znap products. I bought a 3552 for $9.97 in Columbus (Hamilton Rd) last week. Today I picked up models 3552 and 3571 for $4.90 each at TRU in Heath! Each includes a 9V motor (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Why no 8450 or 8482 in US?
 
I have sneaking suspicion it has something to do with the fcc and the use of the 27MHz model control band. As I understand it, use of the 27MHz band in the US specifically prohibits the transmission of data, while it isn't so stringent in this (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  motors
 
I know this question came up before, but can someone please tell me the effiency of the motors included with lego mindstorms?? How to they compare to the avergae electric motor?? (25 years ago, 9-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: programming the Hitachi H8... (newbie question)
 
Thanks for the info Steve! I've read a little about NQC and LegOS and as you describe LegOS appeals to me for the raw low-level support it offers. (...) What do you mean "setup as a cross-compiler"? I'm not familiar with that process... Is there a (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Resistances of touch sensors and lamps
 
I have been keeping an eye on this thread and feel compelled to add my observation and experience; The touch sensors tend to exhibit quite an extended range of resisitance values as they are depressed. I have a couple which start as high as 7k on (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: programming the Hitachi H8... (newbie question)
 
(...) Well, (I'm also a C++ programmer - with a similar background - who got a RIS for his birthday this year). There are two choices that suit people like you and I. The *simplest* is 'NQC' (Not Quite C) - which is a *small* C subset that compiles (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  programming the Hitachi H8... (newbie question)
 
Hi, I am new to Lego Mindstorms and just got a RIS 1.5 for my birthday. Let me start with a brief background info on myself: By profession I'm a C++ programmer who does COM+ development. I'm not a formally educated computer scientist however (no CS (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: need advice on joining....
 
Amnon: Thanks. Your right. that did the trick. I used your idea in conjunction with a part that I found in the cybermaster set. I just searched the element registry and could not find it. it has 2 friction pegs on the bottom, and forms a triangle (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Resistances of touch sensors and lamps
 
Hi all, I played around with touch sensors and a lamp this weekend, trying to measure their resistance. Since my Ohmmeter proved rather unreliable, the values keep wandering around and it seemed zero was not well adjusted, I just took a look at the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  alternate uses for IR port...
 
can the IR port used to send messages to the RCX also be used for other applications? in other words should i even bother trying to use the IR module hooked up to my computer for other devices or should i expect it to be proprietary. and if it is (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  RCX, Servos ,and Pneumatics
 
Hi All, I've just updated my site with new information on controlling standard RC servos with the RCX. Besides the dead-simple schematic that uses Radio-Shack parts, you can even control pneumatic switches! There are a few pictures that show a (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)  
 
  Re: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
Yes, this explains my observations perfectly! I will probably set up some more experiments--attempting to exactly duplicate the function of my oddly-behaving RCX Code (my currently-running NQC program is very close already), and try to get some real (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: need advice on joining....
 
Use the light gray pegs that have a 1-length dowel on one side and a stud on the other side. These convert holes to studs, so it is easy to make the joint you want. Put one stud next to the cross axle hole in the bend angle beam, skip two holes, and (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Vision command and Mac
 
Have you tried using Virtual PC (or Real PC)? I believe that Virtual PC at least supports some USB devices, maybe the Camera is supported. BTW, has anyone thought of extending NQC --or any of the other alternative RCX programming environments-- to (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  need advice on joining....
 
Help I am building a gripping mechanism and am using pneumatics to do the squeezing. Due to the orientation of the hole on the base of the cylinder I was "forced" to attach a beam in such a way that is now puts me in a bind. The beam in question (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Dropping your RCX on the floor...
 
Having had to dismantle an RCX at one stage, I would point out that the battery connectors are not solidly attached to the main circuit board inside the RCX. (I have noted a lot of Lego electrics are built along those lines - relying on mechanical (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
(...) With regards to your comment about sensor watchers, yes they are slow. If I remember correctly, they are implemented by a task that loops forever polling the sensors and starting other tasks whenever an event of the proper type occurs. Tasks (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Is Extreme Creatures Good?
 
(...) If you can find <set:6979> on clearance at TRU for $30, it's arguably a better deal, since it also has a Micromotor. It's not Technic, but my feeling is that the parts in it have more potential for making "pretty" bots. Ran (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Cheap pyroelectric sensor
 
Ah hah! That's where they come from! I had seen the $40 ones mentioned in this news group a while back and then found Walmart selling complete motion detector systems for $8. So I bought a couple and pulled the sensors out. So they only cost $4! (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Cheap pyroelectric sensor
 
Hi all, Somebody pointed out to me a REALLY inexpensive pyroelectric sensor, to be found here: (URL) specs are here: (URL) he was asking if the sensor can be used with my interface circuit, to be found here: (URL) answer is no, at least not without (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: A neat idea for touch sensors
 
(...) make that four, one more than the number of sensors (...) It's on Michael Gasperi's site ((URL) Schumm has figured out how to orient the wires to allow two or more Touch sensors to be hooked in series to create the AND function. Here is his (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  RE: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
(...) (URL) Is a note I posted a while back on pbForth speed. It really is very fast - not as quick as legOS, but fast enough for what we're doing. In fact, NQC and native firmware is fast enough - we just don't have enough variables.... As a point (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Vision command and Mac
 
I've seen no discussions of drivers either, if any finds out anything...please post. Thanks, Doug (...) Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
(...) This is correct. (...) Hehe :) Yes, this is correct. LegOS is also faster for some other reasons- it samples the sensors at a much faster rate than the standard firmware, so legOS programs can react much more quickly than standard bytecode (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  RE: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
Thanks very much, everyone, for the detailed answers. I suspect that, due to the huge performance gain I seem to get using NQC (in one observable area: touch sensor response time using two touch sensors on two separate ports), that the RCX Code (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Vision command and Mac
 
Hello listers, Once again Lego has made a product that is without Mac support. I have tried all the Logitec drivers, but the camera must be a model without mac support. Have any of You found a solution for getting it to work ? Regards Mikkel --- (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
(...) As I understand it, the situation is this: * Using the Windoze graphical environment - your 'programs' are translated into a special 'byte-code' that's interpreted by the RCX's firmware. * Using NQC, your C programs are translated into the (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
(...) At the RCX level, there is no difference. Both use the standard Lego firmware to execute programs specified using a byte code. The byte code is something like an instruction set, except that it's interpreted and it has operations that are (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Remote dead, what to do?
 
That was it! Thanks so much. --Jack Gregory Juergen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> wrote in message news:87d7hf5sny.fsf@loria.fr... (...) problem. (...) If (...) breaking (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Is Extreme Creatures Good?
 
I got Extreme Creatures about a month ago when it was last on special at S@H for $25. I guess for the Fibre Optic unit and the collection of parts, it's not a bad price. As far as I can tell, it's the only way you can get the FOS main unit from (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
 
  RE: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
(...) No, the Lego GUI software and NQC both produce code for the same target -- a simple interpreted virtual machine implemented in the firmware. I have never looked at the code produced by the Lego GUI, but I can't imagine it would be that much (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  RE: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
Wilcox, Doug (11:04 AM 10.05.2000) wrote: >Hmm. This question seems to have gone the way of my PC-->IR Tower cable >question. > >Let me try to get at the point that most interests me--what is the >difference, at the RCX level, between programs coded (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  RE: NQC versus Lego RCX Code Speed
 
Hmm. This question seems to have gone the way of my PC-->IR Tower cable question. Let me try to get at the point that most interests me--what is the difference, at the RCX level, between programs coded in NQC and programs coded in RCX Code. Is the (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Cybermaster on sale
 
Yesterday I saw that the Cybermaster is on sale at the Bart Smit toy shops in the Netherlands, now only fl. 169,- (approx US$ 70) instead of fl. 449,-. I bought just one... Emile. (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Remote dead, what to do?
 
(...) Are you sure it is the remote? Maybe your RCX forgot its firmware, then the remote won't work. Jürgen (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: A neat idea for touch sensors
 
(...) That probably was me ((URL) That required a lot of Lego wires, put together in funny (...) I used five wires for convenience, since I have enough of them. But you can get by with just three wires if you connect them directly to the sensors and (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Remote dead, what to do?
 
My remote control suddenly stopped working yesterday, and I immediately replaced the batteries, but that does not appear to have been the problem. What is the failure mode of these devices? Can the ir "bulb" burn out? If so, can it be replaced? Is (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: A neat idea for touch sensors
 
Hi Rob, (...) Yes. But by looking carefully at the connectors it's not too hard to figure out how to do it. (...) I think it is just that in most cases parallel connections are needed, and you got to decide between the two possibilities if you want (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Is Extreme Creatures Good? (WAS: Re: US S@H Specials, Sep 20 - Sep 26, 2000)
 
(...) i'll (...) Not in my opinion, just a random collection of additional parts. There is an inventory at: (URL) I didn't buy the set, so maybe owners of the set would have a contrary opinion. Kerry (25 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: A neat idea for touch sensors
 
(...) Those resistors in the Cybermaster touch sensors are in parallel to the sensor. You can read its value when the sensor is not pressed. Cybermaster uses it to figure out which sensor is connected to what port before starting the actual program. (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics)


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