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Perosnally, I think that NELUG is being stupid by enforcing their under-18 rule with you. Of course, the way to get around it is to bring a parent or over-18 friend with you, and then you would come as their guest. You've shown (repeatedly) your (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) Thanks for your flam- uh, I mean, thoughtful opinion. I'm sure we'll all learn and grow from it. eric (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) One would hope. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) I'm sure you'd agree that part of that maturing process is being respectful of the way other people choose to do things, even if you don't agree with it. eric (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) See, there's that funny word there: respect. I'm sure you have the same level of respect for Shiri as you would for anyone else who wants to visit -- oops, Shiri's just a child. It's perfectly FINE to disrespect someone strictly because (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) No, it's not fine to be disrespectful of someone because they are younger than 18 years of age. Unfortunately for the position you are trying to take, having a policy that our group is only for people over the age of 18 isn't being (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) Insults...? Okaaaay, hold that thought. (...) I found them. (1) I was quite surprised to read them, too. You claim to dislike being a judge of people, and yet you are being a judge in a fairly callous way IMHO. Perhaps you could find better (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) <snippage above> You aren't (entirely) alone in your opinion; I also happen to think that it's a pretty dumb policy *BUT* it's their policy, and their choice. IMHO, it's a bit hypocritical to call them disrespectful while not respecting their (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) learn (...) I doubt it. You've shown no ability to think, consider, or learn from anyone about this issue. Like Jeremy, I have an extremely low opinion of NELUG, and that will change only when I've seen evidence of an ability to PLAY WELL with (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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Jeremy, For a guy who says he doesn't mean to revive this pointless debate, you're talking a lot about it. Now. saying nothing about any debate, I'll simply state that as a NELUG member, I find your spouting off in our general direction offensive. (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) snip of a few suggestions, including a scandalous misspelling of "MEGA BLOKS" (...) In the previous discussion I was one of the people who (as an outsider) felt that the group was making an unfortunate choice in barring Shiri from meetings, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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It just wouldn't be me if I didn't interject myself uninvited into the conversation. While I whole heartedly agree with Jeremy concerning the short sitedness of a policy that blindly and uniformly excludes people based on age, inspite of talent. (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) Sure. (...) Actually, no, we aren't. We set an age limit and have decided to keep it. That judges no one in any way. As has been said before, to make an exception for Shiri would mean that we were, essentially, judging anyone that came after (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) You should- it was sarcasm, meant to point out that your statement was neither thoughtful nor necessary. (...) You are confusing the fact that I haven't seen a reason to change my opinion with the above. (...) Which you are entitled to. But (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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In lugnet.people, Eric Joslin writes: <SNIP> (...) <SNIP> WRONG!!! WRONG!! WRONG! In that post I said NELUG was BEING stupid. BIG difference, eric. Don't read meanings into my statements that aren't there!! Paul Sinasohn speaking for myself (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) I almost feel sorry for having to point this out, but there's little real difference between saying someone "is stupid" and saying someone "is being stupid". If splitting hairs about it makes you feel better, be my guest, but it's still an (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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(...) Why is this being reopened again? NELUG has chosen to make rules the way they see fit, a democratic process validated those rules and I think it's rather immature of YOU to buck against a club somewhere else and the way they organize. I have a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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People: Y'know, it just doesn't matter if Shiri makes it to a Nelug meeting or not. She has asked, it is up to NELUG to decide how far along the continuum of absurdity they wish to take their under 18 yrs. prohibition. I feel sure that I am not (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) I think it comes up again because most of us outsiders are just aghast that Shiri isn't already some kind of honored and permanent fixture of the NELUG clubhouse. May I recommend using crazy glue on her sneekers...? =oP -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) I think it also comes up because AFAIK, they're the only club that has any kind of membership restriction, and it is very baffling to many of us why it would exist. *BUT* again, it's their policy, and their choice. I can respect their opinion (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) Which is *almost* exactly what I was asking for. The only reason that's not *exactly* what I asked for is because I already tried... (URL) the fact is that fewer people read .ma.bos than .org.us.nelug. I got no replies there, and only two by (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) Yeh, I belong to that club! I hope her move to Isreal won't keep her from posting. No offense to others, but it gets a little boring without her. (...) You tell em! (...) You can belong to my club, Hop-Frog... The club of nonjoining club (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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(...) [WHACK] (...) "I wouldn't want to join any club that would have somebody like me in it as a member." Who said it? John C. (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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