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    Put-up or Shut-up —Steve Hassenplug
   (...) Chris, In the spirit of friendly competition, (as previously suggested by Jeff VW) I'd like to challenge Chris Magno to a robot-building contest. For the last couple months, while most of rtl was talking about trains, "Road Shows" and the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
   
        Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Calum Tsang
     (...) Sweet. I'd pay to see that. Well, if it was cheaper I would. (...) It really wasn't anything to write home about. In fact it was a tour de brute force of Lego robotics. Chris' building style varies from pool noodle pathetic (when he's busy) to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Chris Magno
      (...) Calum, while what you say is mostly true, your analogy implies that Brute force is wrong. Allow me to expand your analogy to show you what I mean. If I needed a can of infant formula to feed my baby, I need to buy that at a store. A mere (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —David Koudys
     In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> (...) Of course there was the block stacking competiton in which Chris brought something that looked like it came from the creators of 'Wild Wild West' (will smith, et all) Some sort of (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Chris Magno
      (...) People, People. we're missing the bigger picture here. I think Calum says it best on the brickfest rules web page; when describing the whole point to our rtlToronto robot games: (URL) word about rtltoronto style rtlToronto began as a bunch of (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —David Koudys
     In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> (...) And those 'other things' better be leggy and blonde!!! Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
   
        Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Chris Magno
      Steve, I'm not going to play your little game. I "put up" at EVERY single rtl event. period. I have nothing to prove. (URL) I've got a RCX powered backhoe to build. Steve I understand your frustration at needing good solid competition. it must be (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —David Koudys
      (...) <snip> (...) Out of all the competitions we have ever done, thse two 'bots are my favourite: (URL) miss my block sorting 'bot. I think it was my best 'bot ever. ANd the way that Rob's moved around the board was poetry in motion. THose were the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Steve Hassenplug
     (...) I didn't think you would. I just wasn't sure how you would decline. The direct approach, that's good. (...) I think this just points out a difference in philosophy. I just don't like to do things half-@$$ed... like David said: (URL) nice to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Calum Tsang
      (...) Steve, when you build successful robots for: Monkeybars, ProjectX and Blockstacking, then you can wonder. I would suggest you try them out on your own time as a personal challenge. (...) A marginal job (and marginal doesn't apply to most of (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Steve Hassenplug
      (...) By successful, I assume you mean a robot that can complete the task. So, we can scratch Blockstacking off the list right away. (...) You know, chess is really not all that complex. A half-dozen different pieces, each with a very limited (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Iain Hendry
       (...) Then shave. For the love of Rupaul. (URL) Iain (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Chris Magno
        (...) so we can have these lively debates about who's better. (...) Ok, we'll talk more tomorrow. Chris I'm off to some secret place, to view some secret stuff, that i cant talk about for another 6 months. (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Bruce Sheridan
       (...) You must be under the impression that we actually care...Take a long rest...and maybe when you wake up you'll understand that line following is just line following. Name an rtlToronto contest with zero participants...I know...line following! (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
      
           I'll Shut-up, now —Steve Hassenplug
       (...) To tell you the truth, I'm just glad you care enough to read the 20-some messages in this thread. :) If it were me, I'd have stopped reading a long time ago! :) Actually, John B. kind of touched on the other stuff I was thinking. It's not all (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
      
           Re: I'll Shut-up, now —Chris Magno
       steve, steve, steve, As i sit here drinking my cup of Tim Hortons. (URL) reading all these posts (that even got Bruce out of the wood work) I cant help but feel a little bit responsible. So just to beat this already dead horse, (...) umm, ~HELLO~ (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
      
           Re: I'll Shut-up, now —Jeff Elliott
        (...) <snips pseudo-bicker> (...) I'm telling you, the rice had memory-loss drugs in it. "Have some more rice," they say. I bet the only thing you remember from dinner is "Success awaits you in your every venture," and you only remember that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Calum Tsang
      (...) Well, you've got two more. (...) Yes, but you miss the part of "depth". Sure, chess is incredibly deep. There's strategy, history, even personality in chess. That's why only until now have we found software and hardware that can explore that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —David Koudys
      In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Steve Hassenplug wrote: <snip> (...) Let me get this straight--you don't have to get the pucks up off the floor, they just have to be 'contained' within the robot, even they're still on the floor? That's it? K, I'm (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Steve Hassenplug
      (...) I believe the rules have changed. Now, the robot has to pick up the pucks... sorry. :) Steve (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Put-up or Shut-up —David Koudys
      (...) That is also not much of a problem--I make LEGO vacuum cleaners for blocks, I can make one for pucks. Maybe I'll send down a 'bot for the next competition. Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
    
         Re: Put-up or Shut-up —Chris Magno
      (...) I've been told that I can be very direct. :) (...) but you do anyway's in the next paragraphs you go on about your legway can "fly" clearly your legway can't "fly" nor can it come as close as this robot: (URL) it's nice to see a robot that's (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
   
        Re: Put-up or Shut-up —John Barnes
   Hi ! I feel somewhat guilty here. It was my idea to run a Sumo event for a second year at BrickFest. (Ducks as rotting Canadian tomatoes fly over head :) There is more to BrickFest competitions than just contestants. For every contestant, there are (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 

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