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| | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —James Simpson
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| | | | | (...) Wouldn't you want to enjoy gravity if you were traveling in space for months at a time? (...) Perhaps Nostromo is sufficiently blunt 400 years in the future. Even wrecker drivers take pride in their rigs - and no wonder! Drivers have to pay (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) I probably would. But where does it all come from? Just what generates the gravity? And I think the crew were mostly traveling asleep/frozen. And they were revived for docking and such, I think. (...) Is that a Star Wars movie? I can't really (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | (...) Because it's too darn hard to show zero grav over a whole movie. Either that or they have a gravity field generator of some kind. Or constant acceleration or deceleration (not that the crew are positioned correctly to show this). (...) If they (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:>I saw the first showing in a mostly empty theatre with really high-backed (...) Back in '92 a local theater showed the Alien triple-header to a mostly empty theater. It was wild to see the three (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) After hearing the premise of Alien 3, I determined that I would never, ever watch it. Still haven't. :-) Bruce (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —James Simpson
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| | | | | | (...) If I may stray into the topic of Alien IV, I've always found it ironically amusing that the crew remarked how beautiful Earth is as they entered the atmosphere shortly after the mothership took out all of southern Africa. The crew seemed to be (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) **snip** (...) Not as tragic, presumably, as if the aliens had landed, but that's another matter. That same guy (whose name I forget but could find easily enough if I weren't so lazy at the moment) directed City of Lost Children, another (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | (...) Weren't they a bunch of pirates or mercenaries? ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, but they were pirates and mercenaries with hearts-of-gold ;^) james (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Can't say that I disagree. "Oh, geez, we just laid waste to half the planet - kinda, pretty, though, ain't it?" StOOpid. Bruce (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —James Simpson
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| | | | | | (...) Yep. Makes me wonder what kind of welcome they received upon landing. What kind of welcome would you get? "Hi! Errr...the out-of-control capital-class starship you ditched somewhere this side of Mars just slammed into Africa, thereby (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) The ship and crew are full of gravity throughout the movie; it's a grave situation. (I apologize.) (...) I just saw Aliens again this weekend, and I have another question. Why does a ship the size of New Jersey (or whatever its size--it's (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | (...) That's down sizing for you. (...) Perhaps gravity genarators are very large pieces of equipment? (...) I'd say the propulsion systems WE'RE needed. (...) Perhaps the ship is multipurpose and designed to fight it's way into a heavily defended (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) "We're looking for a few good men and women, and we *do* mean a few." (...) Not bad, and not inconsistent with most of what we see. Would there have been sufficient gravity, then, for the alien and Ripley to fall into the airlock? That would (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | (...) Ha Ha :-) (...) Your assuming that space ship gravity is a pulling force, it would work just as well as a pushing force. A central gravity core could send out 'reverse gravity' pushing everything outwards toward the hull. (...) Ha Ha again, (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) Did you guys read the link I posted? I gave a rather long description of the Sulaco's role, its armaments, and what level of automation it contains. :^P ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —James Brown
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| | | | | (...) I'd always understood it (aside from the dramatic necessities of the plot line) as a logical extension of the colonial marine mentality of "be prepared". It may well be more economical in the long run to send a ship that can do 95% of what (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) That's true, and a good point. For consistency's sake, I guess we could posit that the automated ships aren't sufficiently savvy to drop from orbit and land in hostile environments without some sort of ground-based guidance, but even this (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | (...) The Sulaco was sent out on a special mission. Quite a lot of the ship was unused at the time. I typed up a big ol' blurb about it here: (URL) Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) sent a dozen troops solely for the purpose of increased dramatic tension? Dave! (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | (...) I thought they only sent a dozen because it was a bug hunt. ;^) ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ever suppose Cameron read "Starship Troopers"? :-) Or, "Congo" for that matter (the dual automated machine gun sequence)? Actually, I always thought they left a perfectly good explanation out - there should have been a second squad that got (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) Did _anyone_ read Congo? I mean besides Crichton himself, of course! 8^) Dave! (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | | (...) Guilty! I even read "Eaters of the Dead", "The Great Train Robbery" and his latest screenpla...book. The operative question is: Did anyone see "Congo" the movie? ...and not wish they hadn't? Bruce (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) You mean Timeline? For me, that book was the final nail in the Crichton Coffin, as if I'd needed another. He's a writer like Keanu Reeves is an actor. (...) What a waste of Bruce Campbell. And Laura Linney, now that I think of it. Tim Curry (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —David Martineau
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| | | | | | | | (...) I've read Jurassic Park, does that count? Oh, and Sphere, too. (...) Are you telling me you didn't find "Bill and Ted..." a guilty pleasure? (...) I admit I liked it... (...) The only movie Tim Curry is in that I'll never watch is Rocky (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | (...) There's not much good to be said about that (those?) movie(s)! I'd say Dr. Frankenfurter is Curry's best role to date, and certainly the role (like Connery's James Bond) that he'll spend the rest of his career getting out from under! (...) (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) He's been in a few good movies, though, too. Okay, well, one. (The Hunt for Red October; Curry played the doctor/only surviving officer not "in" on the plan) (...) Probably just Sturgeon's Law in action. If you take roles in enough movies, 10% (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | | | | (...) The difference here is that Keanu Reeves didn't have to act, he could just be himself and recite lines. :) I loved Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. But I like really bad movies. (...) I think Curry is generally under-rated, as well. Probably (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Tim Curry's done stuff besides Rocky Horror? Wow... Steve (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Steve, I'm shocked! How could you forget Richie Rich? Or was it Home Alone II? I don't know--he was in _something_ with Macauley Culkin. Dave! (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Macauley Culkin? Was he the little red-head with the curls? No, wait--he must have done the voiceover for one of the fairies in that FernGully movie. Maybe he played Jim Hawkins in Muppet Treasure Island. Was he the Russian sub commander? No, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, 'cause that book is actually good. (And would have made a good movie, too. Shame.) (...) Ok, that _does_ count. (23 years ago, 21-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think I had a different edition, because the one I read was pretty much the standard "wait-for-the-monste...-from-it." It was more deeply developed than the film, but it was still only so-so. As much as I enjoyed Jeff Goldblum (and why, by (...) (23 years ago, 22-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | (...) I didn't say it was *great*. And certainly not deep. I guess I'm just relatively impressed by it because as I recall, the ending doesn't completely suck -- an impressive feat given the author's standard style. ("Oh, the volcano erupts and (...) (23 years ago, 22-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —David Martineau
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Matthew Miller writes: <snip> (...) Lemme guess! Lemme guess! Congo? and The Andromeda Strain? but I thought that was something you got from looking up at stars too long... punnily yours, --Electro-- (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Yah, but the fun part is figuring out a reasonable "in-character" reason for only sending 12 guys. :) I got an impression of the CM that's a little bit like fire fighters are today... a lot of training, and a lot of specialized equipment, and (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | (...) I think geeking gives these exchanges a bad image. Women get together and gossip, get a group of men togther and they'll talk about the mechanics of something, it's only natural. This thread maybe a discussion about things that are fictional (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Maggie Cambron
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| | | | | | (...) :) (...) Should I take this opportunity to say I resemble the nasturtium...? Nah.... (...) Mmphh-- [covering virtual mouth with virtual hand] Maggie C. (I'm going to stay out of this... I'm going to stay out of this... I'm going to...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | (...) What? (...) You still haven't added anything to the thread about Aliens. (...) Maggie you've only posted four times in as many months so I reckon your a Lurker. I think your a math's geek who doesn't post enough to be a Lugnet Geek. So you (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | | (...) Ignore that bit I searched for 'Cambron' in the wrong place. (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Maggie Cambron
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| | | | | | (...) You're right, I'm definitely an off-topic.geek lurker. I've probably posted to o-t.geek a total of four or so times. But you're wrong about the math's geek part. Really, I'm NOT a geek at all. I'm just your average sedated-- oops, I mean (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | (...) It was a blanket statement, I should of course have said "can" gossip, I try to avoid sweeping statements as their pretty useless. (...) That was actually the point of the thread. (...) Paul reiser's appearance in the film has always struck me (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) I love my wife. Her two favorite movies are Aliens and Terminator 2. She admires the strong women... but I think it's cool because we can geek over the same movies :^D ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | (...) T2, eh? I always thought the Sarah Connor from T1 was stronger, for giving up so much of her life in order to preserve it. The one from T2 was just...psycho. A good kind of psycho, tho. :-, (...) Barbara and I found out we both grok B5, and (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | (...) YOUR married! To Mrs Fleebnork I take it, or has she kept her maiden name? Ha Ha Ha (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) Wow... By the way, which book are you talking about? (a search for "alien" in amazon will give an undesirable amount of results I assume..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | (...) (URL) it seems to be out of print. However, you should be able to find it still in a bookstore. ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) think that I can find any, here in Turkey..:-( Selçuk Selçuk (23 years ago, 20-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | (...) barnesandnoble.com has it in stock. (URL) buy now! :^) ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (23 years ago, 20-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) Selçuk (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: Alien and gravity —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | (...) Great! Glad I could help. :^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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