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(...) Well, lookie there. You're a quickie. Congrats. :) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) A clarification on this one: usually the point of such pages is to preload data for following pages, or maybe to do some autodetection code and not worry about it later. So while linking past this may seem like you're doing people a favor, you (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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(...) Well, if you link directly to things deep within a site, you're not really respecting the user experience the site designer had in mind. That may or may not be impolite. (In fact, I'd argue that on a well designed site, it probably isn't.) (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) Sorry, me no Java. Plus, I've been working on that low-budget VB-based avid client. Steve (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Because it might actually be impolite! :) (Matthew didn't say that it was -always- impolte.) I can think of a several cases where it would be (IMHO) impolite to the owner of the site: 1. Where the site specifically asks for it not to occur. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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Ben: (...) A website with "click agree pages" that can be bypassed by something as simple as a bookmark are defect, and nobody in their sane mind would ever admit having seen such a "click agree page". The world wide web works by URL's, and it is a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) One reason is that it could possibly by-pass any relevant disclaimers that the owner of the web site puts on the front page. Are you still bound to the agreement made when you click "I agree" if you never see that page? Ben Roller (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Matthew: (...) Nice to hear that the web can continue to work in the US too. Why do you write that it may be impolite to link directly to a page? I find it most impolite _not_ to link directly to the relevant page. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Excellent. Thanks for posting this! --Todd (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Well, I for one am glad to see this: (URL). While it may be impolite, linking to something deep within a website is not illegal. (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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(...) [action type="give_beanie"] Here, Franklin. [/action] -Cheese (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) Nah, nothing as heinous as a stack error - it was the NoDefClass (?) error - basically it wasn't finding the ice stuff. I have some free time tomorrow - so I *will* get it working, and post a fix here.. it's probably something *really* simple. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) heh, that occured to me... while I dislike java, I'll give it a shot :) (...) yes, but in that case, you increase the delay from the time the message is posted, and the time the client displays it... it'll be 2-10 minutes, assuming the 1/5 min (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Whoops, good point! After I implement a spooling server, of course. :-, (...) Mmmmmm. That'd be nice. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Jeremy H. Sproat writes: bite? (...) or, have it connect to your spooling message server... (...) nope, though Todd said it's possible to have it in the avid.cgi output... I was thinking of how we could remotely vote... (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) BTW, did you see any kind of output indicating an error, such as a stack trace? If so, could you please e-mail it to me or post it here? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) Good point. I wasn't clear enough. This does not require any browser support of Java. Instead, it's a Java application which periodically *launches* Netscape (could be any browser, regardless of Java support). (...) This, essentially, is what (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) Try running the command inside run.bat. After getting it all back on one line, it's: java -classpath external_classes\ice...g_news.jar sproat.lugnet.news.s....GUIClient Oops. Hmmm. I need to fix that. For Linux, it'd probably be: java (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) I did, although I was too ashamed to admit that I couldn't get it working.. (linux) I tried (actually, I'm in win at the moment so I can't remember the exact filename names!): $ java -jar gui_streaming_client.jar (couldn't find the ice html (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) sorry, man, can't try it out - it requires java, which mozilla does not support yet. I'd love to see what it does, if only to get ideas for the perl streamer I'm working (slowly) on... I haven't really done anything since I got it to work - (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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