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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Since Libertarians didn't sweep to stunning victories in most of their races, I'm not sure I agree. Like I said elsewhere, I fear for the country. Having the House, Senate and White House all controlled by the same party (either one of the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Look, for every "Ghandi" type example you give, I could give you 100s where the little guy gets squashed. There is no "real power", just power. (...) Your little parody fell on deaf ears because it isn't even remotely analogous. (...) I will (...) (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) None of us is blessed with omniescence, of course, as far as I can tell. And we're all limited by our horizons, and our companions. But I'm on a mountaintop with Thomas Jefferson, while you're down in a hog wallow with John Ashcroft, so I'm (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) I'm sorry for 'throwing it out there' to begin with... well, no, not actually. I actually liked this thread up until the word 'dingus' appeared (though to be said, the (sic) response was a jab as well--I think we all agreed to leave the (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) I read the whole article, and so did Larry. Did you? Nowhere in it did Ms. Lang say that she hates America. This is not a trivial point, since it highlights your willingness to misread a text for your own purposes. I love the United States for (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) Now that is something I can agree with. ('xcept Canada is the best country to live in, but that's just my humble opinion :) ) I don't have cites--thanks for reminding me of hte word-gerrymandering--just folks who live there and to whom I talk (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		The Uncalled For/Unhappy Return of the Dingus!!! (was Re: Vote against/for...)
din·gus (ding??s) noun, Slang. An article whose name is unknown or forgotten. [Dutch dinges, probably from German genitive of Ding, thing, from Old High German.] -- Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) No, I think he was asking where YOU would get your morals... you reminded him where he gets his, which I presume he already knew. We've discussed morality and the origins thereof in the past and I think I'm in the rather small minority that (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) hating America. Unless you modify your complaint, you are explicitly equating Bush with America, which is insane nationalistic idolatry. And, frankly, that sort of kneejerk follow-the-leader thinking, not to mention your anti-world diatribes (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) Who has said this? Name the star, and give the citation. (...) The fact that you are unable to imagine a dissenting view by an intelligent, well-motivated person of good character is a fantastic indicator that you yourself are either of low (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) Why should US citizens apologize to anyone because our world view happens to differ from other countries'? If I hear of one more Hollywood star say in a press conference in Europe that they hate America, I'm think I'm going to puke! I don't (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) The quickest link I could find: (URL) (...) Dave!, tell me why I should care more about some Hollywood star's opinions than anyone else's. The media seems to think that because they make films, their opinions must be somehow more valid and so (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Right. I'd be happy to see some of those things too, dingus. If you think the war will pay for itself, or be a short easy to pay for war; then you need to reduce your lithium intake. Bush will raise the national debt paying off his (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Dave, I am just curious, is your perspective that on a non-US citizen? Maybe you made clear where you're from in an earlier post, but in this context I just wasn't sure. Assuming you are from elsewhere, I certainly hope you do not think that (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Yikes! Lets just throw in a "Sich heil" for fun too. (...) Freest? What do you mean freest, shouldn't that be simply free. Why are there limitations placed on freedom. Granted as mind bogglingly naive as your rant is, you have the right to (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Actually, Ken Krawchuk had a not-terrible showing in the PA gubernatorial race, pulling an estimated 6,652 votes versus (Green) Morrill's 4,952, and Krawchuk had at least some name recognition leading up to the election. The four main (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) I'll help you with the lego :) It's the zealous nationalism which blinds people to fixing the issues. I'm a nationalist--I love being Canadian. As such, I believe in a 'just war' scenario--that is, I would pick up a gun and join the armed (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Conspiracy! (was Re: Shocked, just Shocked etc.)
I am just hijacking the thread in service to my own nefarious purposes.... MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH...AHAHAHA!!! Anyway, I was reading some Gore Vidal related stuff on the Observer UK site and realized that we must be missing some pretty wild stuff. (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
Given the inaccuracy of this counterfactual assertion: "Mr Mondale had taken over the seat previously held by incumbent Senator Paul Wellstone, who died in a recent plane crash." (1) (from: (URL) is not particularly difficult to disagree with this (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
(...) I don't understand why the chief executive officer has any business whatsoever in campaigning for members of the Legislative branch--isn't that a direct conflict of interest? I don't condemn Bush uniquely for this, although he's been a more (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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