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In lugnet.loc.au, David Low writes:
> > Fair enough, but you must agree that because of that circular reasoning
> > the argument won't convince anyone who doesn't already agree with it.
>
> I am so _not_ going to get in a cultural relativism argument over grammar
> and aesthetics. I'm a liberal in principle and a conservative in practice
> (except for anything from the seventies).
Huh? The argument is circular whether viewed from a cultural relativist
standpoint or not.
> Yeah, it's not really a disagreement. I know that some people see LEGO as a
> singular noun. But to me it seems "wrong". And not just because TLC are
> stinky IP obsessed whiners. More because it sounds like the kkind of
> illiterate garble that some one who said "Laura and I really don't realize
> how bright our children is sometimes until we get an objective analysis."
> might say.
I understand that you're working on very little sleep, but to proclaim
someone's lexicon as "illiterate garble" just because it doesn't adhere to
your aesthetic sensibilities is frankly arrogant. If I don't care for the
way Australians select certain turns of phrase, is it okay for me to decry
those turns of phrase as illiterate? And will I seem any more or less
arrogant for doing so?
Regardless, you're attempting to shelve the argument through ad hominem,
and that's not really necessary or appropriate. You've made sound arguments
based on grammar and trademark issues; no need to resort to insult to convey
your points.
> If Americans voted for Dubya, do they deserve him?
We're undertaking a campaign to ship him to Australia. 8^)
Dave!
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| (...) Okay. The decision in advance that "a usage is wrong" is subjective (and legitimately so) from the relativist viewpoint. And you're right, it will only appeal to people sharing those cultural norms of grammar and aesthetics (hence the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I am so _not_ going to get in a cultural relativism argument over grammar and aesthetics. I'm a liberal in principle and a conservative in practice (except for anything from the seventies). (...) Yeah, it's not really a disagreement. I know (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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