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Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings)
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lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands
Date: 
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:43:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, Frank Filz writes:
If Todd doesn't want to host a clone database,
would he consider making his software available for someone else to run
a clone database?

AND...

Of course the side by side question would be would Kevin Loch be willing
to host clone instruction scans (which could be limited by how the
clones express their "license" to use them)?

How is it that Frank asks perfectly reasonable and polite questions and
still gets no response?

I, for one, do not see the matter as wholly settled -- nor have I been
satisfied with the nature of Todd's other AND still rather terse responses,
nor with the many responses of other persons (some of whom are
megalomaniacal and delusional to say the least).

As I have already stated, these are fairly reasonable questions and
certainly not trolls for overreaching responses concerning the correct
grammatical usage of branded names, etc.

Can't we elevate the level of this thread enough to simply discuss it
reasonably?

If there are costs involved in adding a clone db to Lugnet, what are those
costs?  If the costs could be covered, could it happen within Lugnet's
existing structure?  If Todd is unwilling to work on such an addition to the
off-topic clone-brands page, is he willing to provide the keys to the
kingdom for someone else to do it (as others have been allowed to do for
other areas of Lugnet, some of which even compete head-on with existing Lego
products)?

Asserting that those of us that are clone interested should just put our
money where our collective mouths are and just set up our own "clone site" a
la Lugnet is fairly childish and unreasonable.  It can probably be fairly
asserted that starting from scratch has to be more expensive than starting
from Lugnet's existing architecture; AND I will admit that such a service
would not probably be worth it for anyone involved in terms of luring a
minimal number of regular participants.  Covering the costs of a clone db as
a "part" of Lugnet is another matter altogether.

Just like RTL before it, Lugnet already exists as a discussion and db forum
for those interested in plastic construction toys a la legos.  It seems
quite silly to me to not accept this simple fact and try and address the
whole of the subject and not just the most well-known and branded aspect of it.

And BTW -- yes, everyone else's attitudes are seeming very elitist and
cliquish to me, especially surrounding this subject.  Pretty tedious it is
too...

-- Richard



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings)
 
(...) Richard, As much as I, you or anyone else would like or bennefit from such an expansion of LUGNET, we have have to understand a couple of realities as far as LUGNET is concerned. Before I expand on this, allow me to put forth a few (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
  Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings)
 
(...) this is an interesting thread. if someone decides to start a database site i would be glad to pass over everything on my constructions clones site (or whatever is deemed useful). i think there is enough info for a good start (i've got quite a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

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  Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings)
 
(...) One reason I would like to see a clone database hosted by Lugnet would so that it could have a consistent feel. Todd has gone to a lot of effort to produce a good set database engine, why squander that effort only on LEGO brand sets? If Todd (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)

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