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Re: UK Happy to sign European Convention on Human Rights (was Britain's bloody... (was When is...)
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Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:47:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> >
> > > I have views on NI. They will remain my own for now. But the point you • make
> > > is misleading. It is an accepted fact that the majority of those in NI • want
> > > to be part of the UK - I'm not saying that they have reasons for it, but
> > > that is just the way it is.
> >
> > And that majority is composed of what? Descendants of Britons who • colonised,
> > as I understand it. The Irish who got pushed off that land so the British
> > squires could set up estates didn't exactly get much of a vote at the time.
>
> So what is your answer then?
What was the question?
> NI's problem is partly that it is still living
> back then... in the past.
What's the point of that.
> > So how exactly is NI different from Israel (other than the time frame) • again?
> > The majority of people in Israel now want Israel to remain as a secular • Jewish
> > state. The fact that they all came there recently and usurped the people • who
> > were living peacefully (it had been 1500 years since THEY were the • usurpers)
> > is not relevant unless the fact that Britons usurped the Irish is relevant.
> Even if Britain then = Israel now. Would that make it right?
Didn't say it did. Recall I said I didn't think Israel should have been set up
in the first place. Recall that I said that it was the UK that caused this
mess. You haven't answered that.
> >
> > I say again, get your own house in order before you hastily criticise
> > elsewhere.
>
> Likewise Larry :-)
>
> Where did I say the UK was perfect anyway? Where?
And where did I say the US was? You started slagging the US for no reason I
could see after I said (as a throwaway) that I didn't think it was appropriate
for the US to try to act as the world's policeman.
> >
> > I have the standing to criticise because I'm doing everything I can to undo
> > the wrong the US has done internally and externally.
> hmm. By wanting international "policing" on the part of the US for self
> interest. Is that not what you said you wanted? Very ethical.
Cite please. Never said I wanted that. Never said I wanted the US to intervene
anywhere. It's a plank of the Libertarian platform that the US should NOT
intervene, which party and platform I support with time, money and votes.
> If you are doing everything you can do, how come you have so much time to
> spend with us here? Why are you not out righting wrongs?
Maybe I am right now, correcting your misconceptions and factual errors.
> > What are you doing to
> > undo UK wrongs?
>
> More then you know Larry.
So enlighten me.
> > Moreover, why are you such a disagreeable cuss, anyway?
>
> Perhaps I disagree with you as you are wrong Larry. Even you must be wrong
> at times.
If it was just me that you disagreed with, that might hold, but you pick at
stuff that anyone and everyone says, not just me. I'm just tired of it. You're
not helping make this a friendly place and neither is this debate that I
certainly didn't want to start.
++Lar
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