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Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"?
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Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:40:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 06:24:16AM +0000, Scott A wrote:
> >
> > "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:G2v4Dt.3C@lugnet.com...
> > > > > With the total destruction of Israel, right? I mean, isn't that what the hard
> > > > > line states (and Yassir) want? For Israel to be gone, wiped off and the
> > > > > territory replaced with a new state (not a Palestinian state, mind you...
> > > > > that's Jordan).
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure that is true.
> >
> > Sorry, I was talking about the total destruction of Israel part.
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> oh - ok... you don't think Arafat want's the destruction of israel? hmmm...
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> Arafat: [1]
> "Our people [are] continuing the road to Jerusalem, the
> capital of our independent Palestinian state," Arafat said.
> "To accept or not to accept it, let him go to hell."
Does this mean he wants the "destruction of israel"?
> and there are quite a few others. If Arafat wanted peace, he would have
> lived up to his end of the bargin on each of the agreements already made
> with Israel. He chose not to, and instead started riots in an attempt to
> gain the world's sympathy. He says the violence must stop, which giving
> speaches and interviews where he says that it must continue, praising the
> rioters. Quite double faced, imo.
Is he the only one who is "double faced"?
I read this yesterday on the BBC:
http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle%5Feast/newsid%
5F985000/985175.stm
If the Israeli did not react in such a violent manner the rioting would have
stopped days ago. For now, I think, it is the goal of the rioters to have the
Israelis over react. That is pretty clear to me. The way that Israel is trying
to confine/suppress this is not the only way it can be done. Id like to see
them using traditional crowd control measures much much more to calm things
down tear gas etc. Using live ammunition, tanks and gunships is over the
top. I do not think that the land is worth lives that are being lost in both
sides. Does anyone outside the region?
If Israel is whiter that white on this, why will they not accept an
independent assessment of the whole situation rather that pushing for some
sort of fudged compromise?
Scott A
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> [1] http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/22/mideast.reaction.03/index.html
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