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(...) Nitpick: Usury. (...) Because moneylending is as close as anything can get to being the one thing that makes this world possible. Do you know how many more times there is "virtual" money compared to real-world assets? Where do you think Intel, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[Yes, responding to my own post. New information.] (...) The latest news is that a court in Pakistan has just in essence subscribed to your views. They say interest is against the the Qur'An. By 2001 Pakistan will have to have an economy without the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote in message news:387356c2.218055...net.com... (...) understand why (...) 12 of (...) I don't think so. We have a party here, which defends fundamentalist opinions mostly, claimed once (before they came (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm gonna go with "none" unless they find some way to redefine rewarding the owner of capital for risking his capital as something other than "interest". I rank banning interest right up there with defining Pi as exactly 3. Both are about the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think this thread has gotten VERY far from anything I wanted to talk about, even as off-topic debate, but even the bible prohibits usary (not a word my spell-checker catches). But in any case, my brief point would have been to point out that (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting, take me through how my charge card company would get a stake in the profits when I charge a meal for a client? Are you sure that's a workable suggestion? Do I have to give them an accounting of how exactly that meal resulted in (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Seems I forgot the "<snort>" here. (...) As sad as that sometimes seems to people. Unfortunate truths, and alla that. (...) Pakistan is a nuclear power nowadays. Worrying, since they're so close to Europe. Fallout from a fullscale (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll give you three to one odds and go for "dramtically negative", myself. (...) Interestingly, I've heard one rumour that this is _exactly_ what they're doing. I suppose the system of investing in companies in exchange for shares in it (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Charge card? Electronic cash is EVIL. We should all return to barter as a payment system. So that's no problem at all.[1] BTW, Richard, on the subject of thread-drift: You don't own the thread or even the subthread because you started it, this (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if you're smart you're paying that balance every month (or your company is), so the CC company wouldn't be making anything off the meal from you anyway. They'd be making their 2-4% from the restaurant for the transaction. :) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Barter is a fantastic system. It's only drawback is that it becomes impractical as volume increases, and it requires all participants to have an idea of the value of goods. It's only TWO drawbacks are... ;) (seriously, though - barter is GREAT (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Your English is much more challenging then even the native English speakers. I can't understand this sentences at all..:-( (...) Yeah, I know. A third worlder with nukes, its even more frighthening, huh? (1) But it is not that (...) (25 years ago, 24-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly. Try running a global economy filled with 80 % utter lusers on it. We're talking about people who need to call Support to tie their shoelaces. And then still can't. (...) In the real world, as well. But can you see me shipping three (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I am not sure about the exact nature of your hypothetical, but how about the way one uses an ATM for different purposes -- your use being contigent on available money in the account. The account itself is simply paid for with a service (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's probably _because_ I'm not a native speaker. Okay, let me rephrase that. "Even though that is a sad thought, it happens to be truth" (or possibly even TRVTH..) (...) Yeah. At least the US won't be taken over by junta number x tomorrow. (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's Ok then,..:-) (...) Yeah. again when I was a rocket scientist, once we took delivery of trucks load of abondoned missiles and missle parts from the former USSR which were having a strange story. a Turkish trader who were buying and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's Ok then,..:-) (...) Yeah. again when I was a rocket scientist, once we took delivery of trucks load of abondoned missiles and missle parts from the former USSR which were having a strange story. a Turkish trader who were buying and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) load (...) a (...) Oops :) Mind you, I have no doubt that they were -scrap- metal, and probably useless as rockets (except for Guy Fawks Night/4th July type rockets :) ds on who's "they". The US has had suborbital missiles capable of (...) (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope. Between 1.5Kt and 20-40Kt for a straight Fission weapon. Dirtyness has very little to do with the weapon itself. If the bomb is a airburst, then it will be relatively clean, if it is a ground burst, it will be dirty (it takes the crap (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Whoa, whoa... (...) This, above, has almost NOTHING to do with interest. It so happens that I agree with some (most? almost all?) of your points(1). I'd prefer that my money be issued by a private bank, and backed by something tangible, instead of (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No bet. I keep thinking (at 2 am or so) that none==no OR negative. I should have just said negative too. (...) I was insufficiently precise and what you said is what I meant to say, basically. (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, sorry. I see that you are talking something like my language. And I wasn't using the bible to justify anything, merely pointing out the many faiths have this idea in there somewhere (relating it back to another offshoot of this thread). (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? My information was incorrect, then. I must admit "The modern terrorist's guide to building the atom bomb" isn't all that likely to be completely accurate, of course ;) (somehing like that. It's on the net somewhere, anyway, though I (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So how do you feel about that plan to take all the decommisioned used-to-be-nukes missiles and loading them up with lots of fake meteorites for the millennium next year? (...) The problem is getting it there before the Patriots shoot it down (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's what I figured, but hey, what's life without a little smart-arse remark now and then. (...) It happens. You know what (don't tell anybody else I said this, mind!): It's happened to me too. More than once. Imagine that... Jasper (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sold for scrap metal would suggest to me a few options: these things were so outdated they figured it's OK since every secret service in the world would have stolen at least one once (apparently not the case, as you learned stuff :) ), or the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or else they'll have to admit that it's a necessary evil, or just ignore the statement in practice. Was this a civil court or a religious court? I don't think they're one and the same in Pakistan, but I haven't been keeping up with late (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BOOM!! NOOOBODY expects a Spanish Inquisition. Our weapon is supplies--supplies and fear. Fear and suppl-- our two weapons are fear and supplies and the ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear and supplies and the ruthless efficiency (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <grin> Nitpick: c/supplies/surprise James (URL) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well, I didn't expect a Canadian Nitcorrection..... -John (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) NOOOBODY EXPECTS... Nemmind. Anyway, the parrot's _dead_. Jasper (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I thought it was just resting. Ray (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) ...tired and shagged out from a long squawk... -John (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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