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Re: Ticket prices going up
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Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:57:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> If you have the money, the inclination, and love the risk of getting in an
> accident, go right ahead. Don't pay these 'bills' and you wont get the
> priviledge of driving for very long.
Just to poke in again for a minute...
I don't consider traveling by common conveyance a "privilege" (at least it
should be considered a right in my view).
One should be able to travel as a matter of right unless specific damages
caused by one should result in a restraining order prohibiting one from
driving a car.
I don't believe in preventative laws -- I believe only in acts and consequences.
Again, referring to "Minority Report", it is not what you might do that
creates causes of action in law -- but what you did do.
BTW, I don't have a problem with irrefutable evidence. If several camera
angles could prove the crime and the actor in the crime then maybe cameras
could be useful tools. One shot of a license plate and the claim of a radar
detecting X speed is not exactly sufficient proof in my mind.
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) I'm curious if this is a change in stance from this post of yours: (URL) 17688, you seemed to be willing to take action based on a single camera (granted, a video camera, but still, just from a single angle). I am cautious of taking action (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I gotta be bored at work ;) I'm not talking about what may happen. I'm talking about what did happen--someone drove over the speed limit and a picture was taken. No one had a pic taken because they were 'going to' break the speed limit--that's (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) On this I completely concur--DUI has to be the thing that gets my blood in a boil the most. Traffic weavers are also something I have mentioned that the cameras could and should help catch. It's not the 10 kph crowd I'm having a holy tirade (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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