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Subject: 
Cultures, words, meanings and ownership (was Was Re: "piffle!" (bowdlerised for your protection)
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lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Date: 
Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:19:16 GMT
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John's right, this IS debate fodder. He should have set XFUT, but I will.

XFUT o-t.debate and let's keep it out of other groups if it veers into the
subject areas... that would be my strong preference and I suspect many
others as well.

Just a concerned citizen.

In lugnet.technic.bionicle, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.technic.bionicle, Brian Kasprzyk writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I am surprised at the attitude being displayed by the Lugnet community over
> > this issue.  You are not being very realistic about this whole issue.  We
> > live in a country where a woman, on her own accord spills hot coffee on
> > herself and wins a multi-million dollar award.
> > 
> > You have a company, like Lego, who goes out of their way to protect every
> > little bit of their block designs, name and other interests and will sue
> > without a thought if someone else's bricks look like theirs.
> > 
> > Then you have an entire nation United States Of America, which was stolen
> > from the indian people of this country we live in
> 
> Uh, troll, I don't think that the indians *owned* this country in the first
> place to have it "stolen".  But this is .debate fodder for which I have not the
> time or inclination...
> 
> 
> , yet, when a company, like
> > Lego decides to rip-off names from another culture, words that have deep
> > religous meaning to them, you think they are the ones that are wrong.  Well,
> 
> As many are pointing out elsewhere in this thread, it is absurd to believe that
> a "culture" "owns" anything.  What a load of hooey!
> 
> 
> > I say shame on Lego, first to use the names and then to deny where they
> > originated, saying they made them up.  You should really be saying, shame on
> > Lego.  Here, I thought they came up with all this stuff on their own to find
> > out they plagiarized it all.  Just like you can't copy someone else's work
> > in school, the business world is just the same.
> 
> Except that this "culture" who thinks they have a case mostly certainly isn't a
> *business*.
> > 
> > Now, I may agree with you that they may be partially doing it to get some
> > monney out of it, but many of them may not.  We have a warped sense of what
> > living comfortably is.  Prime example again is the Indians here in the
> > states.  Many of them are rich, due to the casino profits, but they still
> > choose to live in their old cultural ways.
> 
> If *any* are doing it for the money, the argument is lost.  If *all* of the
> American Indians were chosing to live in the old ways despite being millionaires
> I'd buy it.  Heck, there are many *very* poor reservations in the US-- do you
> think that the casino-rich ones care?  It's all about "getting mine", even for
> them.
> 
> > 
> > Please think about this from a different angle then just, "getting money of
> > of Lego."  This is the business world.  Just like Lego goes after people
> > using their company name, the New Zealand people are doing the same...
> 
> lol When I first started reading your post, I thought you were speaking tongue
> in cheek.  There *isn't* any other way to see this except for shameless $$$
> grubbing.  Sorry.
> 
> -.02,
> John
> > 
> > BK>



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(...) Uh, troll, I don't think that the indians *owned* this country in the first place to have it "stolen". But this is .debate fodder for which I have not the time or inclination... , yet, when a company, like (...) As many are pointing out (...) (25 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)

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