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Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!
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Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:25:39 GMT
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In lugnet.technic.bionicle, Erik L. Knopp writes:
In lugnet.technic.bionicle, Dave Low writes:

In the meantime some of you might like to read the following,

http://www.culture.co.nz/reo/timatanga.htm

Looking around the newslinks at the above site, I found two articles from NZ
that give a little more detail on what's happening (urls below, the AP
quotes seem to be from the second one). To me, they seem to indicate the
line isn't dead, just the use of Maori words without Maori approval.(They
also say that LEGO and the Maori are working out the details on how such
approval will be given.)

Dated 29 Oct 2001
<http://www.newsroom.co.nz/story/71376-99999.html>

"Maori have stopped international toy maker Lego using Maori names without
appropriate consultation.

Instead Maori and the toy company are working together to develop a new
range which respects Maori."

The names are not exclusive. They are common. Who was consulted before using
the name Jack Stone? No one! Why? It's not exclusive. It's common. You see
where I'm going with this...

"The lead claimant in the intellectual property case, Dell Wihongi, said
Maori may now benefit from a relationship with the toy company."

They damn well better not.

"He said Lego had tried to profit from the words without respecting the
spiritual concepts behind them."

The words "priest" and "god" have spiritual concepts behind them. But in the
end, they are still words available for any public consumption or use.

Dated 30 Oct 2001
<http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,991581a1931,FF.html>

"Protests from iwi, including one based in Nelson, have helped to convince
Danish toymaker Lego to stop making a multi-million-dollar range of toys
that use Maori names.

It may also work with them to produce a range of "authorised" products based
on Maori designs and knowledge."

I would NEVER buy a toy in this line. EVER. I would stop strangers in toy
stores who have these toys in their carts and tell them what nasty,
litigating, selfish jerks the Maori are for getting their message out on the
cashflow of TLC.

"He said he had been impressed with Lego's attitude and willingness to consult.

He said it was unfortunate that the Government was not as willing as Lego
was to discuss providing legal protection for Maori intellectual property.

'Our own Government, our own treaty partner, doesn't want to work with us,
and here we have a multinational that's willing to.'"

This is the entire point of my contention...the Maori are simply using LEGO
as a bargaining chip...a stepping stone...the bankroll...to further ther
real agenda...and they don't give a care if they take down a time-honored,
family owned business to get their way with their government. DAMNIT!

A still very frustrated Matt



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(...) I am surprised at the attitude being displayed by the Lugnet community over this issue. You are not being very realistic about this whole issue. We live in a country where a woman, on her own accord spills hot coffee on herself and wins a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)

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(...) that give a little more detail on what's happening (urls below, the AP quotes seem to be from the second one). To me, they seem to indicate the line isn't dead, just the use of Maori words without Maori approval.(They also say that LEGO and (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)

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