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Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!
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Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:14:11 GMT
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In lugnet.technic.bionicle, Brian Kasprzyk writes:



> 
> I am surprised at the attitude being displayed by the Lugnet community over
> this issue.  You are not being very realistic about this whole issue.  We
> live in a country where a woman, on her own accord spills hot coffee on
> herself and wins a multi-million dollar award.
> 
> You have a company, like Lego, who goes out of their way to protect every
> little bit of their block designs, name and other interests and will sue
> without a thought if someone else's bricks look like theirs.
> 
> Then you have an entire nation United States Of America, which was stolen
> from the indian people of this country we live in

Uh, troll, I don't think that the indians *owned* this country in the first
place to have it "stolen".  But this is .debate fodder for which I have not the
time or inclination...


, yet, when a company, like
> Lego decides to rip-off names from another culture, words that have deep
> religous meaning to them, you think they are the ones that are wrong.  Well,

As many are pointing out elsewhere in this thread, it is absurd to believe that
a "culture" "owns" anything.  What a load of hooey!


> I say shame on Lego, first to use the names and then to deny where they
> originated, saying they made them up.  You should really be saying, shame on
> Lego.  Here, I thought they came up with all this stuff on their own to find
> out they plagiarized it all.  Just like you can't copy someone else's work
> in school, the business world is just the same.

Except that this "culture" who thinks they have a case mostly certainly isn't a
*business*.
> 
> Now, I may agree with you that they may be partially doing it to get some
> monney out of it, but many of them may not.  We have a warped sense of what
> living comfortably is.  Prime example again is the Indians here in the
> states.  Many of them are rich, due to the casino profits, but they still
> choose to live in their old cultural ways.

If *any* are doing it for the money, the argument is lost.  If *all* of the
American Indians were chosing to live in the old ways despite being millionaires
I'd buy it.  Heck, there are many *very* poor reservations in the US-- do you
think that the casino-rich ones care?  It's all about "getting mine", even for
them.

> 
> Please think about this from a different angle then just, "getting money of
> of Lego."  This is the business world.  Just like Lego goes after people
> using their company name, the New Zealand people are doing the same...

lol When I first started reading your post, I thought you were speaking tongue
in cheek.  There *isn't* any other way to see this except for shameless $$$
grubbing.  Sorry.

-.02,
John
> 
> BK>



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  Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!
 
(...) Why is it more absurd than a corporation's claim to a trademark? Note that the Treaty of Waitangi (1840) (URL) acknowledges Maori entitlement to cultural heritage, which includes their language. (URL) LEGO can acknowledge the importance of (...) (25 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
  Cultures, words, meanings and ownership (was Was Re: "piffle!" (bowdlerised for your protection)
 
John's right, this IS debate fodder. He should have set XFUT, but I will. XFUT o-t.debate and let's keep it out of other groups if it veers into the subject areas... that would be my strong preference and I suspect many others as well. Just a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!
 
(...) I am surprised at the attitude being displayed by the Lugnet community over this issue. You are not being very realistic about this whole issue. We live in a country where a woman, on her own accord spills hot coffee on herself and wins a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)

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