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Re: The Origins Debate
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
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> To be more precise, evolution is a fact, just as gravity is a fact. The
> Darwinian model of natural selection is an evolutionary theory--that is, a
> theory that hopes to explain the process by which the fact of evolution occurs.
Let me restate my position this way:
FACT: Many, many species exist and have existed on Earth. The first species
which appeared were very simple, single-celled organisms, without nuclei.
After these, nucleotic cells appeared, and after these, various multi-celled
organisms appeared. Species after species appeared in increasing
complexity, leading to the variety of organisms existing on Earth today.
I don't think this can be correctly called evolution; it has to be called
what it is, which would be "the continual appearance of organisms of
increasing complexity". This is evident from the fossil record. On the
other hand, *explanations* for the mechanism by which these organisms
appeared *are* theories.
The theory of evolution states that these organisms developed of their own
accord, by means of spontaneous, large-scale genetic mutations in a
completely random fashion. Those organisms which had the most beneficial
mutations survived and gave rise to new organisms.
The theory of creation states that these organisms were created by God and
installed on Earth as described in Genesis 1. God created species of
increasing complexity to fill the Earth, humans (Homo sapiens) being the
final and crowning work of His creation. He has created no new species
since then. (This theory is the same among both the old-Earth and the
young-Earth creationist camps. I'm an OEC.)
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--Ian
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Message has 2 Replies: ![](/news/x.gif) | | Re: The Origins "Debate"
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| (...) There is more evidence around than just the fossil record though. For instance, my work involves comparing DNA sequences from different organisms. We can measure the differences between sequences, and draw a tree or nested set describing how (...) (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| |In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ian Warfield writes: | |>Let me restate my position this way: | |>The theory of evolution states that these organisms developed of their own |>accord, by means of spontaneous, large-scale genetic mutations in a (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) To be more precise, evolution is a fact, just as gravity is a fact. The Darwinian model of natural selection is an evolutionary theory--that is, a theory that hopes to explain the process by which the fact of evolution occurs. (...) But no one (...) (23 years ago, 20-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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