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Re: The Origins Debate
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Date: 
Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:41:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ian Warfield writes:
> 
> > > My aversion to Ross isn't so much because of ID theory but because he links
> > > it necessarily to Christianity, and believes in Special Creation (i.e.,
> > > doesn't accept that speciation or evolution even happened or can be
> > > demonstrated--the former of which, at least, is a laughable assertion).
> > 
> > Evolution is still a theory, after all;
> 
> I don't understand this argument.  Everything science proposes is theory
> (hypothesis, actually).  It never goes beyond that.  Everything science
> determines is a tentative explanation, pending better.

That's exactly what I meant.  It wasn't an argument; I was just restating
the fact that evolution is, indeed, a theory.

> It is not valid to claim that "evolution is _still_ a theory" as if it were
> somehow going to _ever_ change that state.  It won't.  It can't.  Rational
> people prepare to adapt to new data and refine their hypotheses.

I wasn't claiming that it necessarily would.  I was merely guarding against
the possibility of anyone claiming it as absolute proof.

> Gravity is still a theory, after all.
> 
> Your very existence is merely a theory too.  It seems to be a darned good
> explanation for what we are perceiving, so we act like you really exist.  If
> new data explains our perceptions better, we might revise that assumption.
> 
> Chris

"On the Internet, no one knows you're a minifig..." :)

--Ian



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  Re: The Origins Debate
 
(...) To be more precise, evolution is a fact, just as gravity is a fact. The Darwinian model of natural selection is an evolutionary theory--that is, a theory that hopes to explain the process by which the fact of evolution occurs. (...) But no one (...) (25 years ago, 20-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I don't understand this argument. Everything science proposes is theory (hypothesis, actually). It never goes beyond that. Everything science determines is a tentative explanation, pending better. It is not valid to claim that "evolution is (...) (25 years ago, 19-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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