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Re: The Origins Debate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:25:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > If people want to take comfort in religion, bully for them, but I find it
> > rather tiresome to go over the same old same old over and over again
> > whenever some newcomer decides to start it up again instead of reviewing. My
> > hat's off to you for refuting in detail instead of just grousing like I am
> > doing.
> 
>   Yeh, well, it's never for me so much as for the spectators.  :D
> 
> > This debate isn't going to go anywhere, no common ground.
> 
>   My only search for common ground is to get the agreement that
>   yes, belief in religion is a matter of faith and is therefore
>   unprovable positively *or* negatively.  My aim, if you'd call
>   it one, is to get dogmatic obstructionism *out* of astronomy,
>   biology, geology, history, etc. [1]
> 
>   best
> 
>   LFB
> 
>   [1] Note that I say "dogmatic" and not "religious," because
>       it's not people's beliefs in and of themselves that cause
>       the problem--it's the effort to push a particular *brand*
>       of that belief that does the damage.

Spot on. I have no beef with religion or any other dogma except when it
obstructs progress.



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  Re: The Origins Debate
 
(...) I think that this is the stance I have been leaning towards the past year or so. I feel rather lonely in church these days as I no longer "see" as the majority of the congregation seems to. Blind faith ("dogma" I suppose) seems to work at (...) (25 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Origins Debate
 
(...) Yeh, well, it's never for me so much as for the spectators. :D (...) My only search for common ground is to get the agreement that yes, belief in religion is a matter of faith and is therefore unprovable positively *or* negatively. My aim, if (...) (25 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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