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Re: The Origins Debate
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Date: 
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:25:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
If people want to take comfort in religion, bully for them, but I find it
rather tiresome to go over the same old same old over and over again
whenever some newcomer decides to start it up again instead of reviewing. My
hat's off to you for refuting in detail instead of just grousing like I am
doing.

  Yeh, well, it's never for me so much as for the spectators.  :D

This debate isn't going to go anywhere, no common ground.

  My only search for common ground is to get the agreement that
  yes, belief in religion is a matter of faith and is therefore
  unprovable positively *or* negatively.  My aim, if you'd call
  it one, is to get dogmatic obstructionism *out* of astronomy,
  biology, geology, history, etc. [1]

  best

  LFB

  [1] Note that I say "dogmatic" and not "religious," because
      it's not people's beliefs in and of themselves that cause
      the problem--it's the effort to push a particular *brand*
      of that belief that does the damage.

Spot on. I have no beef with religion or any other dogma except when it
obstructs progress.



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(...) I think that this is the stance I have been leaning towards the past year or so. I feel rather lonely in church these days as I no longer "see" as the majority of the congregation seems to. Blind faith ("dogma" I suppose) seems to work at (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Yeh, well, it's never for me so much as for the spectators. :D (...) My only search for common ground is to get the agreement that yes, belief in religion is a matter of faith and is therefore unprovable positively *or* negatively. My aim, if (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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