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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Simpson writes:
> > Here we come to the great defeater of your argument: The existence of Baseball
> > is final and convincing proof that a Loving and Good God does in fact exist. >I
> > defy you to postulate any theoretical universe in which Baseball, in all its
> > Infinite Glory, could arise given the vagaries or time, chance, and the >pennant race.
>
> No, it is proof that the universe is in fact random, if not actually cruel
> and malevolent. Why else would such an ultimately boring game fascinate so
> many? (including me)
Ah, but here we have merely the inscrutability of Divine Wisdom. Presumably God
foreknew that a universe with baseball, in sum totality of its joys and many
despairs, would be an inherently better state of affairs than a universe without
baseball. The greater good hath prevailed.
> > james, who's still bitter that his 'Stros dropped 2 out of 3 to St. Louis in >the most important series of the year.
>
> And if you REALLY want proof of no justice, consider the Tigers.
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> > fut set to .fun
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> As it should be, although there is nothing funny about the dismal
> performance of the Tiggers for the last N years.
Yes, but the meek shall inherit the earth. God is Just and Good, and the
faithful shall have their reward in the kingdom of heaven. The momentary
sufferings of the Cubs, Tigers, Pirates, Expos, Rangers, and, alas, Astros fans
among us are nothing compared with the great glory that shall one day be given
them.
james, who is getting teary-eyed
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| (...) No, it is proof that the universe is in fact random, if not actually cruel and malevolent. Why else would such an ultimately boring game fascinate so many? (including me) (...) And if you REALLY want proof of no justice, consider the Tigers. (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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