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(...) **snip** (...) DaveE's (URL) comments> made me realize a few other weaknesses in this argument. First, you're apparently equating homosexuality with being a centenarian or a polygamist, at least to the extent that you think that Hagen is (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, if he had picked something slightly more equivalent, like "personality type X" or "brown eyes" or "under 5 feet tall", it wouldn't quite get the same type of media attention he's looking for. But I think his point still stands-- IE that (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In that case, maybe he needs to join the GOP. (...) Not at all. He equates the utter lack of supporting data for Hood's bogus (though seriously-intended) legislation with the utter lack of supporting data for Hagen's own bogus (and (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mr. Hagen shouldn't quit his day job at the public teet for a career in comedy. He might have a promising career as a professional hypocrite, however. Hagen equates being a republican to being gay. Certainly one can change their party on a (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Good luck, Mr. Hagan!> Hagan admitted that he has no scientific evidence to support the above claims. Just as `Hood had no scientific evidence'' to back his assertion that having gay parents was detrimental to children, Hagan said. Dave! (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And, probably, the next federal election too. Cheers Richie Dulin (19 years ago, 15-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) She just needs to throw in gay marriage and she'll win my right-wing conspiracy theorist of the year competition. Tim (19 years ago, 14-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you sure about the latter? ;) Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) latest news from down-under: Australia will become a muslim dominated nation in 50 years if our current abortion rates continue. Yeah right. OK. Maybe if we're currently producing politicians like Danna Vale, a muslim nation in 50 years would (...) (19 years ago, 14-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is SO obvious-- we are engaged in an violent struggle (ie war) with radical Wahabi muslims. If the rest of Islam doesn't not stand up against these extremists, they are allowing THEM to define themselves (the rest of Islam) and their (...) (19 years ago, 13-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I mentioned the OJ Simpson trial because my school shut down access to radio, cable, TV when the verdict was read. Maybe the missing piece of info was that the school didn't know what the verdict was going to be - I think they were expecting a (...) (19 years ago, 13-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The trial of the officers who beat Rodney King (I have no idea why you are referencing the O.J. Simpson trial) was such a farce that feds brought them up on federal charges (and ran a competent trial) as fast as they could. The riot ensued (...) (19 years ago, 13-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Good point, and it highlites an omission I made. What I meant to say is that accounting to God is our only hope of remaining humble throughout life. Yes, life can get us down, but we are usually able to rise up and forget all that those (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure about that. If you get your butt seriously kicked by the world-at-large (through a spectacular failure or an overwhelming loss or a debilitating disease or whatever), then I'd say that you can get a pretty good grasp of what it (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think most cultures respect life a lot. It's just those extremists you're talking about that seem to have less respect for it. And I don't just mean terrorists. And if more people were content to put up with the inconvenience of walking (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yup. Faith without works is like a day without a bicycle. Or is that a woman without a man is like a fish without sunshine.... Something like that:-) (...) That's fine and good, but there's one caveat, and Jesus addresses this issue DIRECTLY (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) So you're a James disiple--"faith without works" and all that? I'm pretty much there except I say "In the end, I believe that we'll be judged on what we did" and leave the beliefs out of it, (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Phew, I was getting the shakes in there! ;-) I'm wondering if it's as simple as simply stating, "life begins at heartbeat". Completely arbitrary, but not without a poignant touch, considering that the heart is a powerful symbol for humanity (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is almost beyond belief. But then, on the oppsite end, there's the 'morning after' pill that is causing a furor because the republicans want to make it a perscription drug (or have already done so--can't remember)--they're meddling in the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No questions? Some have decided that (URL) post birth abortions> are fine. Again, I am not comfortable with someone deciding to abort a baby that is literally seconds from birth, much less X minutes after! It's almost beyond belief. So it (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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