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(...) Excuse me for lamely replying to my own post, but... I had another thought and that was that the Creationists of course take the belief of God as a fundamental truth of the universe much in the same way you accept the nose on your face. So, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I5uC0L.1JF1@lugnet.com... (...) after (...) Greg Egan - born 1961. One of the best IMHO! (URL) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ha ha ha, well, I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the thought occurred to me that this almost seems to go into a realm related to Moral Relativism. Instead of seeing morals as relative, we are seeing the scientific evidence in (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yah, you see there. You are asking the questions that the government does not want answered. I learned a little bit of government thinking in that job, and they don't address issues like that. Yes, now that this has been publicized it is (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just to think about how we're (USA) going to support the baby boom generation in retirement and that there are four times as many humans in China with little in the way of future generations to support those. Of course their family structure (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snipped a lot of the post because I see much of it has been covered by others already. (...) ONE good thing about the EU is that this sort of anti-competitive chicanery is against EU rules. And sometimes the EU even actually does something about it. (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Riii...iiight, and the majority of China's factory labor force is upper-middle class, university educated!?! Bad factory environments exist in much of the Global South, and China in no exception! Some generalizations are valid, simply because (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course not. And you are correct that such projects are generally judged on merit. Personally I like the ones involving Near Death Experiences - although it should be noted in this case that this doesn't necessarily imply it's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well since any crackpot out there can make up his/her own theories, the first step to gaining scientific credibility is to present the theory for peer review - typically by submitting an article to "the literature" journals. This allows for (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No we won't! How dare you accuse us of that! :) (...) You may certainly buy a new one. However, if you're looking to return your Lucky Jackalope Foot, you'll have to demonstrate that it had, and then lost its powers. Or you might just need to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's not the point-- the point isn't that to date, religious science has been a joke, it's that "what if it weren't"? Should the fact that it just happens to be religious preclude a research project from going forward, even if it's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Honestly, that's a great question! Creationists have never actually submitted anything for peer review, so if the book were indeed written using scientific methods of inquiry, then it would be greatly beneficial to them to put it up for (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why's that a good question? I thought the govt. was supposed to be workin for us, not just to perpetuate itself. (...) Wow, you guys'll argue over just about anything. On a relative scale this seems about as vital as wrangling over whether you (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because religious research shouldn't be confused with scientific research and it shouldn't pretend to be. One is legitimate science that can produce beneficial results (in medicine, engineering, technology etc) - which represents a gain to our (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Although I doubt it's the case, what if the book were written using scientific methods? Let's suppose for a minute there were some evidence (albeit alternately explainable evidence via "regular" science) that supported the claim. The article I (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because geologic theory is based in testable science rather than non-testable religion, and the Fed's choice to endorse an article of religious faith is manifestly unconstitutional. Even the claim made elsewhere that Dubya himself didn't (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm, I'd argue that one does get something from almost any charitable contribution (beyond satisfaction, which of course has value itself). For example, if I give to a homeless shelter, then someone gets to spend a night inside instead of on (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The problem as I understand it is that this is a widely regarded as a work of fiction (or nonsense?) by our own NPS geologists and educators, yet it is being sold in a manner which makes it appear that the NPS regards it as a legitimate (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hm. But the government DOES have business endorsing a book that would support the theory that the GC was created by erosion? Why should the government support NASA research (say), as opposed to religious research, apart from the actual (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi Avery: Thanks for the input re: sonar in the other thread. Regarding this book--is it presented as a work of science or a work of fiction? If the latter, then I don't really have a problem with it, as long as the Federal Parks Service would (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, two things about this: One, the article makes this sound as if it was from Bush's own hand that this was allowed. Probably some bias there. But, this was from the administration. So, it could have been anyone under Bush acting to support (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Two things -- One, it said Bush administration, not Dubbya himself. And two, it is quite common to have various novels of fiction and non-fiction pertaining to national monuments in the book stores at the visiting centers. They are probably (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I appreciate her style as well. (...) I don't know how much I donate to charities, but I also know it's more than 0 percent. I don't know if contributing to the local Jazz radio station to keep it on the air is "philanthropistic" of me or (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good question, how to treat profanity when embedded in a site URL or email address. I'll bounce it around with the rest of the gang and see what they think. Meanwhile, as ways to find the site, there's Makeashorterlink.com if you wanted to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Not wanting to make a link to the site due to the use of profanity, but one of my favourite very-infrequently updated blogs has just been updated. TMB mentions 'flat tax', 'libertarianism', and such like in a wonderful little article. Of course, as (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd have to assume they wouldn't, but I dunno. I guess some do: (URL) funny-- they do give some actual evidence suggesting that certain areas were created 'in a catastrophe', and that there's inaccuracies in carbon dating, but not once is (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just further proof that Dubya is a blithering moron. The sad thing is that it says something about the number of blithering morons in this country that he could almost get elected in the first place. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Canyon made by Noah's flood? I don't even know where to begin... Do even Creationists believe that? Yet supposedly, as stated in the article, Dubya supports that. This is the guy running the most powerful nation in the world--"Grand Canyon (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, in his defense, he was liberally lubricated with a certain illegal Romulan paint-stripper. That stuff can't be good for your brain cells, especially not after you've had some vile space-bug in there chewing on the wiring. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Like those posters in the t-shirt shop--"everything I needed to know about life I learned from Star Trek..." Here's something I gleaned from IMDB.com the other day-- the "Guess who's coming to dinner" line was suppose to be spoken by Uhura. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh! Wasn't paying attention--was thinking TUC, but somehow TVH was stuck in my mind... Why was that? There be whales here??? Maybe it was more of the computer asking Spock, "How do you feel?" :) Dave K (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Correct! The line came from the daughter of the Klingon Chancellor in resonse to Chekov's ham-handed attempt at diplomacy. Dave! (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's actually from ST6: The Undiscovered Country, which I just recently caught on TV. I can't remember which scene specifically it's from, but I think it was the dinner shared by the Enterprise crew and the Klingons. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Eh, I thought I'd add a particular flavour to my otherwise colourless rant. If you want me to do you a favour by dropping the u's out of color, I'll do so. (...) We can set up scientific experiments, observe, and hypothesize, and come up with (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bit of a puff piece, really: (URL) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Which is it: (URL) or (URL) ??? (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Judging by the mob which followed him on his last visit and the way he is almost universally derided here: not very many. (...) That's actually an argument against all political campagning. When I posted the message I was actually more (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I tried reading one of the Alvin Maker series a while back, and I just could not get into it at all. Aside from that, the only OSC books I've ever touched were in the Ender series. I wouldn't want to say that he's a good sci-fi author in (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoops, forgot to complete that thought. ...but it didn't really strike me as a great example of his work. The ending kinda rolls out in a largely predictable manner. I'd say the most compelling reason to read it is the unusual array of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My son is reading Ender's Game as I type this (page 200). I started after him and zoomed by him to page 273 (just put it down so he could go read it - he has to have it read for school by Sunday). I'd agree with your analysis. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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