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(...) That very much depends on the body in question! ;) I'll be spending the next few days cycling (MTB) around (URL) and Blair Athol>, if I see a (URL) real one> I'll take it's picture and post it here! Scott A(URL) .> (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Not sure if (URL) this> should be here or in OT-Fun. Dave! FUT as appropriate! (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, Dave! Perhaps we should! The stuff is MUCH more offensive than looking at the human temple, er body, after all, Dave! (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) this> Scott A (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, let's look at the facts. The porn industry rakes in about $20 billion annually; how much money to Iraqis make off of their religious expression? Obviously, if they're not making a tidy profit, they're savages. Besides, don't castigate (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...and, like SH, Marcos was supported by Washington. (...) Forgive me, but I don’t remember the Philippines being invaded as part of an illegal and immoral war to remove Marcos? (...) It has been part of the occupation plan to fragment the (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here again the age old question, which is worse, stable but evil leaders, or democracy and instability. Similar thing happened in the Philippines, Marcos was corrupt and evil, but his regime was stable. As soon as he was removed chaos ensued. (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) WOW. This reminds me a lot of Douglas Coupland's end of the world fiction, particularly _Girlfriend In A Coma_ but even more surreal because it is real (!!). Great site. Thanks for the pointer, Frank. -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) God this makes me depressed. 1. To think that this is my country, a democratic country, where I must take a certain amount of responcibility for what is being done. 2. To hear a responce from someone being affected by these actions (something (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and until the weekend Bush was adamant it was infiltrators (Syrians, Iranians, Chechnyan’s etc) and "Sadam loyalists" who were to blame for the trouble. Scott A (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Despite the noise coming from Washington, and the right's "islamo-fascist" paranoia, Iraq remains < (URL) secular>. That said, I agree that Bush is radicalizing moderate opinion… and not just in Iraq! Only one country remains placid: his own. (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yup, this is exactly what I expected would happen - remove Saddam's infrastructure and the chief organizing force would be the religious fundamentalists, who will, of course, end up being a bigger threat than Saddam ever was. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I assume, across the pond, it doesn't look like what we saw from here but, I assure you, we, the people living down here don't need to read that article to see how "spectacular" it is. It amazes me dearly when I see how naive you Americans can (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pretty much what we both felt would be the case. It's a long article, but a fairly interesting one. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yawn. She protests protests over nudity by pretending to be nude? Wake me when the real protests start. Bland. Boring. Canadian. Zzzzzzz.... ;-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) crazy canucks! Go Alanis go! The Juno's happened a while back, and Alanis appears on stage in this 'nude suit' and yet no furor, no legislation, no yippy "too much time on their hands" members of parliament talking about passing censorship (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq Liberated from SH, but still not free. The current uprising started when Bush decided he’d close down a newspaper; since when has he been opposed to a biased press? Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) what's that old axiom--"Violence begets violence"? Have fun after storming the castle... Dave K (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) this article is to be believed we are losing the peace quite spectacularly. (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's the Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC (URL) website>), a group that says it is trying to work within the GOP to make it more (small L) libertarian... I can't speak to whether it's having any positive effect on the party or not. John Neal (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If Iraq ends up a "stone age hell hole", it won't be the UN's fault; this mess is Bush's making. Scott A (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And replace him with peace loving Kerry? Let me see here is a quote by John Heinz Kerry about Iraq back in 1998 "I am personally prepared, if that's what it meant. I don't think you have to start there. I think there are a number of other (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Worst of all: he’ll get away with it. As a related aside, this was in Saturday's (URL) Guardian> (ie before yesterday's uprising): I have gone to the mosques and street demonstrations and listened to Muqtada al-Sadr's supporters shout "Death (...) (21 years ago, 5-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello wrote regarding (URL) link>. (...) If I understand Dubya's agenda, he'll be evacuating on June 30th out of fear. Granted, troops will remain in Iraq, but the withdrawal-at-all-costs is a cowardly tactic to (...) (21 years ago, 5-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Anti-Bush US Media?> Tyler Crotty, a 13-year-old from Florida, has whipped up a surprisingly big storm in the US, considering that all he did was yawn. Fatefully, though, Tyler chose to express his overwhelming sense of tedium - yawning, (...) (21 years ago, 3-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thanks Dave. Your post reminded me of (URL) this story>: The justice department inquiry also found that the FBI officer in charge of retrieval of evidence at the landfill site in New York where most of the World Trade Centre debris was taken (...) (21 years ago, 2-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) A comforting read> Dave! (21 years ago, 2-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I hear you all, probably that link was to "R" rated for FBTB.. But I had to post it, it's one of the funniest creations I've seen in a long time.. I can't stop laughing whenever comes to mind..LOL. And Allister, you're last comment is a sad (...) (21 years ago, 2-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate (...) It's all in the terminology: ref. 'War On Drugs' - by inference, war is ok, drugs are not. And remember, this is a time of war. We want to bring up kids that will fight and kill, but not ask why. Allister (21 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Cash in, and make another movie? ;) Thankfully, I only saw censored pictures of what happened. A few people died yesterday, and that is upsetting to both me and you. However, you should note that a great deal of innocent civilians have been (...) (21 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) is frighteningly reminiscent of the events in Somolia that inspired the movie Black Hawk Down. So the obvious question is what do we do now? Do we act as Bill Clinton did in Somolia and evacuate the area out of fear? Do we act as the voters of (...) (21 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The right wing Israeli group Ateret Cohanim “is the spiritual focus for the return of Jews to their homes in the "Moslem" (once known as the Mixed) Quarter.” (i.e. this group, supported by Sharon, is engaged in ethnic cleansing). Where does it (...) (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I own a 2004 Prius, and it doesn't look THAT much like Lego in real life ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build)
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(...) SNIP there: (URL) Jeff (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: SNIP (...) i just looked at the link, and when i did, i notced the little toyota ad on the left-looks like it brought the off-topic back on-topic (maybe 'prophetic'-hehehehe!)--i thought it was funny i (...) (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, FTX)
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(...) No doubt we'd have declared war on Amazon.com by now, and we'd have been right and perfectly justified in doing it, of course. (...) Out of curiosity, what's the name of Dubya's education policy again? Coincidence? What could it portend? (...) (21 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Just imagine the uproar if (URL) this book> was about Islam and had been bought by 2 million Muslims in the USA or Europe: “Glorious Appearing is the last in a 12-book series called Left Behind published over the past nine years. The first 11 novels (...) (21 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ooh ooh ooh don't forget Shrub's lap-dog, Little Johnny Howard. ROSCO (21 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I must admit to thinking the exact same thing. You should listen to some of Blair's(1) pronouncements; he goes to great lengths to not to tell a lie. What makes it worse is that he is quite unashamed about it. I expect both Bush & Blair just (...) (21 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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