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(...) Since it's illegal to threaten the life of the president of the US, I shall not tell you how I interpreted that line... That said, I do not believe that Dubya did anything that would warrant such a measure. If he did what he did out of the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Heh, beat you to it. (URL) Your point is facile. Even if nobody did condemn the way US troops were (...) I'm not sure I made a point, other than that google is not the best way to search for old news. I did find it before you did though, or (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's not what I said (or at least not what I thought I said). I thought I said he gives the appearance (to me) of someone who believes what he's doing is right. As for myself, I find the lucrative buddy contracts questionable, and I can't (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Some might suggest putting Dubya in front of something else... Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So Bush talks about Freedom and Liberty whist funding gross human rights abuses in places like Uzbekistan & Israel and you think he is not "dishonest"? He hands out "lucrative" contracts to his buddies and you think he is not corrupt? Wake up, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Some do, some don't. Old saying, not sure of the attribution or exact phrasing: "I like my politicians honest... that is, once they're bought,they STAY bought." ++Lar (noting that for someone who doesn't hang in Debate much, Don seems to be (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You really are grasping a staws; from their (URL) site>: "The treatment of prisoners of war, again the rules of war are fairly clear, all parties, all sides are expected to treat the prisoners humanely and in accordance with international (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually I think I see him seeing himself as a father figure. To me, he at least appears to believe he's doing the right thing. Whether he is or not, only time will tell. Most other political figures leave me with the impression that they know (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wait, I found it. (URL) like this Bush quote from that article. "If not, the people who mistreat the prisoners will be treated as war criminals," he said Sunday morning. (...) I imagine someone will try to take him up on his suggestion. (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow! I'm no expert, but you appear to be seeing Bush as a father figure. Dreams can be really weird at times! Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you. That's half of the answer I was looking for. Does anyone have a link where the same impartial humanitarian organization declares the Al-Jazeera footage humiliating? I found some hints with a quick google search, but nothing quite as (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) yes> Scott A Or is this just the media trying to spice up (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Doh! The clonemeister's been scooped! I thought it had been established somewhere that MEGABLOKS used some lesser manner of styrene other than ABS, but I could easily be mistaken. There was a thread in OT-Clones a while back about Ritvik's (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah that's annoying, but just the sort of thing the media loves to broadcast. How do you stop them? Anyhow, my question remains: Has the "Red Cross or any other impartial humanitarian organization" ever actually identified any of the video on (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yup, Iran is a nice liberal democracy all right... (URL) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, the pesky WoMD... I figure they all were sequestered to an undisclosed location. Perhaps in Sweden. Maybe we should invade Sweden to go check. OK, who's in? As for this from the Beeb article where Blix talks about the WoMD that was (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I get the impression that Cheney's hideyholes tend to be a bit posher, but ya... history is written by the victors, after all (or the apparent victors at the time of writing, in this case)... (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A good question. I know there was an uproar when US POW's in Iraq were featured even briefly on Al-Jazeera, for example. Hussein was able, according to reports, to identify himself as "the President of Iraq" to his American captors, so this (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (ABS is "Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene" for those that don't remember... it's a polystyrene variant/alloy) What ARE they made of? I was pretty sure they were ABS too, just a different formulation. Are they made of some sort of styrene (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hey, an excuse to read (ok skim) the Geneva Convention. Cool. (...) But what about this? ( from (URL) ) "Prisoners of war who, owing to their physical or mental condition, are unable to state their identity, shall be handed over to the medical (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What ever happened to all those maps, satellite imagery, intelligence reports and eye witness accounts which pinpointed exactly where the weapons were? Have they been lost? (URL) Yesterday:> Balir: "The Iraq Survey Group has already found (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ok Larry, you've ruined the metaphor. That's cheating. I think a 50 year old grown up little boy ought to be able to handle a 50 year old expired tiger. I thought that was the plan. Feed the tiger and keep it sleepy until the little boy grows (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ABS can vary in quality, but it's irrelevant in this example, because MEGABLOKS aren't made from ABS. Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Rumsfeld claimed that Saddam would be treated as a POW under the Geneva Convention, but that Convention has already been violated by the endless broadcasting of humiliating video and photos of Saddam following his capture. (...) Heh. The (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think this is why Dubya is keeping such a "I have my own opinion but I'll keep it to myself and let the Iraqis decide..." I mean, the hypocricy can only go so far... "Hey! Look over there!! We captured SH!! Don't look over here, what with (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The (URL) Darwin Awards> would suggest we are safe. Scott A (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They would be opening themselves up to lawsuits whether or not they admitted to a problem of this... not divulging this information if it were true would be even worse for them. LEGO's been around too long as a company now to not have regard (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Should Saddam should get a fair trial in Iraq? Whether he does or not, well we'll see I guess, but that seems to be what Dubya wants. I'm just wondering whether the many non-US citizens who've been held in Guantanamo Bay for over 2 year without (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can think of several possible reasons that Lego would lie. Generally companies call it public relations or spin though. The following situations are all hypothetical examples. 1. IF the "real" reason for the color change was that it was (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) yep. IF the tiger was safely in a sturdy cage, the little boy could go somewhere else if he wanted, and taunting was all that was being done. But this tiger is uncaged and unrestrained, can't be escaped from easily, and has said for 50 years (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now I don't normally like to post here in debate, but the local story about the 10 year old boy mauled to death by a tiger was giving me nightmares last night. As dreams would go, this debate item somehow entered the picture. It occured to me (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was thinking that when my appendix explodes, I want him in the OR. I sometimes have this little list going on in my mind--"There's dumb (which I seem to fall into sometimes...), and then there's *really* dumb...." like a bad MAD comic. If (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I understand that NASA is taking applications for rocket scientists again... he can probably save himself the cost of a stamp there. (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) licence suspended for life for stealing cars and driving whilst intoxicated He wants his stuff back from the county pen... "Hey, come on over to pick it up" says officer So he does, by stealing a car and showing the revolked drivers licence. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) May the farce be with you, Dave! JOHN (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I found this interesting: (URL) What are odious debts?> "If a despotic power incurs a debt not for the needs or in the interest of the State, but to strengthen its despotic regime, to repress the population that fights against it, etc., this (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was trying to preempt objections along the lines of "that's ridiculous, Hussein didn't really say that." But you're right--my phrasing was a little unclear, and I am in fact I'm all for farce. So farce so good, I say. Dave! (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Oh, and another thing, only marginally related, I deplore the ambiguity about Taiwan that seems so favored in Foggy Bottom. If I was driving I'd come out and say "Taiwan is free, you're not. They want to be independent, that's fine with us, and you (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You say "farce" like it's a bad thing... It's farce all right, but farce based on the truth, and that's the best (or worst, depending on whose ox is being gored) kind. Realpolitik is just a bad idea. Always was. Better to be principled even if (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My favorite part: Saddam was also heartened by Mr. Bush's promise that, "The capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the end of violence in Iraq." With new attacks by and on US and other foreign occupation forces, the former strongman stated, (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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