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Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
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Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:33:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
> > > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3305557.stm Taiwan defends
> > > > > China referendum>
> > > > >
> > > > > It appears Bush is trying to suppress a Taiwanese referendum to please
> > > > > his new friends in China.... perhaps the Taiwanese should only be allowed
> > > > > Chinese style democracy?
> > > >
> > > > Now I don't normally like to post here in debate, but the local story
> > > > about the 10 year old boy mauled to death by a tiger was giving me
> > > > nightmares last night. As dreams would go, this debate item somehow
> > > > entered the picture. It occured to me that if it were my son taunting
> > > > the tiger, I think I'd tell him to stop.
> > >
> > > Wow! I'm no expert, but you appear to be seeing Bush as a father figure.
> > > Dreams can be really weird at times!
> >
> > Actually I think I see him seeing himself as a father figure. To me,
> > he at least appears to believe he's doing the right thing. Whether he
> > is or not, only time will tell. Most other political figures leave me
> > with the impression that they know they're dishonest and corrupt. I
> > don't particularly care for that.
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> So Bush talks about Freedom and Liberty whist funding gross human rights
> abuses in places like Uzbekistan & Israel and [you think he is not
> "dishonest"?]
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> He hands out "lucrative" contracts to his buddies and [you think he is not
> corrupt?]
That's not what I said (or at least not what I thought I said). I thought
I said he gives the appearance (to me) of someone who believes what he's
doing is right. As for myself, I find the lucrative buddy contracts
questionable, and I can't really tell which side is right on the human
rights cases you mentioned. Sometimes short term wrongs lead to long
term rights, and short term rights lead to disaster in the long run.
Which do you prefer?
> Wake up, you {are} dreaming!
I wish.
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| (...) Well that's all fine and dandy if he says "Look I'm gonna do some short term wrongs here, but I'm convinced in the long term it'll be alright" but I don't hear him saying that. "It's right to hold these suspected terrorist/conspirators without (...) (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) So Bush talks about Freedom and Liberty whist funding gross human rights abuses in places like Uzbekistan & Israel and you think he is not "dishonest"? He hands out "lucrative" contracts to his buddies and you think he is not corrupt? Wake up, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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