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(...) Not by me... I think they are both good ideas. I just don't know if it or they will fly in the current environment with the BigCorps having their strangleholds on things. We need systemic change to restore the Free Market back to what it once (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) what's up with Canada? First it refuses to support the Bush Administration's little rape-and-pillage adventure in Iraq – which is more than we can say for Democrats in Washington – and now it has legalized civil unions among gays and lesbians. (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dude, that is 20/20 hindsight. What about paying Arnold 20 mil when the film grosses $200 mil? (...) Ahhh, at what point is that? Government intervention? Think it through. (...) I realize that, Dave, but how else can anything get (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, it was just an idea along the lines of a 'universal library of stuff' that could be checked out that this thread was going on about. So the ideas about paying the recording artists directly from funds fm the checkouts from this library (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good. Start a studio, then, and use that funding model. I think you're a sure fire bet to draw lots of big name stars, and more importantly, the smaller named crafts people who do most of the work, because they'll get a better shake. (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think I mentioned the gov't takig over the entertainment industry--I was talking about people getting paid what they're worth, or what their product is worth. Paying Arnold 20 mil to star in a movie that makes 15 mil in total isn't the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The free market only works between natural persons, once you allow fictitious persons (i.e. deathless corporations) into the marketplace you have killed freedom of trade and replaced it with the heavy gravity of monopolistic leviathans with (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here is a great example of some profound fundamental differences between the Right and Left. Anytime you talk of "implementing" something, what you really mean is for the government to take it over and control it. That in my mind is not the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The problem with that is the "creative" accounting the studios use to show that movies don't actually make money. Spider-Man grossed over $400 million and yet the studio told Stan Lee that it barely broke even. (URL) Many things have to (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, elsewhere in this thread I mentioned the same thing. If one considers the elmination of the middlemen publishers/distributors then the creator reaps the ENTIRE reward of what is being offered by the Library. Let's say an artist creates a (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would like to see a revolution in the entire entertainment field based on something like this. Instead of paying an actor 20 mil to make a picture, pay the actor(s) based on the revenue that the motion picture makes (a la Nicolson in (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, there's even more to it than that. Whether retail outlet or library, real world buildings as stores of information provide jobs for a whole plethora of other people: salesclerks, maintenance persons, cashiers, librarians, contractors, (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:HGvwK1.wIv@lugnet.com... (...) library (...) media to (...) charge (...) licensed (...) case. (...) were (...) and into (...) not (...) could (...) user) (...) works (...) would (...) (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do IP rights have to be bought the way they are now? The reason this library idea is very cool is because it follows the law of today, yet gets more media to more people...right? Why not just set up this giant media database but charge (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No argument there, it was just an example of wealth from someone whose supposed career is making music. Her real career is more truthfully hypnotizing youth culture with her boobs so that they buy into a fake Barbie & Ken music fantasy of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HGuL5F.1xox@lugnet.com... (...) defeat fair (...) there is (...) I say DRM is bad because I just can't imagine a form of DRM that doesn't expand outwards away from the purposes outlined (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tom: I found much of your post deeply interesting and thought provoking. Your idea of the giant archive/database is truly compelling and shows the enormous flaw in the many schemes that publishers are pursuing. Sure, the publishers are pursuing the (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmmmm, is it morbid just to like a big kaboom? I like the kaboom of fireworks. Admittedly, .22 are a simple crack, a 9mil is more of a bang, and you have to get into something bigger than that to even rate a boom much less a kaboom! But yes, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Why would we say that? At least a few, if not many, US states have SHALL issue laws for CCW permits. Including my new home state, FL. File for a permit, pass a test, and they can't deny you the permit if you are not a felon or mentally unbalanced. (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I have read the ToS, twice, and I am sure it is not a violation. And I was sure the point of the internet was to connect all web pages anywhere in the world, and not to discourage doing so. (...) Freedom of speech. (...) What do I do? Go (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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