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(...) You are right, and for 2 reasons-- inspectors can be so easily thwarted, and the man is (was?) a liar! Scuds are flying everywhere-- where the hell did they come from? It's all been a big lie. The fact is that Bush was right. (...) That's a (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> I'm going to say this one more time--it came across my desk--I'm not defending every jot and tittle, but it made me think. (...) Do you realize what you just wrote? Let me phrase it like this-- (...) Hypocritical. SH has committed (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate... (...) The subtext of Scott's 100% correct point [ie, that Lil' Bush shirked his duty] underscores the fallacy of the so-called "liberal media." During the 2000 campaign, many dozens of articles were written about Gore's (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Johann writes: <snip> (...) <snip> Surely that same arguement cannot extend to the other countries against this war, countries, say, like, ummm, Canada? Are we misguided and selfishly looking at our own interests (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Security Council is designed so the really powerful can stop any actions against its interests, including the United States (which has used it's veto power liberally). But the UN suffers from a lack of conviction in general. If it imposes (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) Vive Le Canada!!! Oh wait, I'm Canadian--we never talk ourselves up! Sorry about that indiscretion... ;) Dave K (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I second this sentiment absolutely. Specifically, I have the feeling that at least one of the vehicles in our convoy is carrying a 600lb payload of "forbidden" chem weapons, all set to be loaded into a captured Iraqi al-Samoud missile to be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've said before that France is hardly morally clear on this matter, since they're motivated at least in large part by their past financial investment in Iraq, as well as promised contracts for future oil rights. So, to that end, you're (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes: <snip> How refreshing to have a voice not often heard in .debate actually say something intelligent, articulate and well thought out, in contrast with so many of our recent visitors. Thanks for that (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who the hell is he? JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not a "fact", it is your anti-semitic opinion. (...) Who said Jews couldn't be anti-semitic? (That was rhetorical; I'm finished with this conversation). JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you implying that it is his duty to get *in* harm's way? That he can't do his duty in safety? I would submit that it is a large part of his duty to *not* get killed-- an event that would have serious national implications. All hell broke (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you think President Thomas J. Whitmore would have done? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is "anti-Semitic" about that statement of fact? Am I racist because Snipes is a bad actor? Am I sexist because Thatcher's policies lacked compassion? Am I homophobic because George Michael’s last album was a dud? Face facts: Israel is a (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What about his duty? (...) youch! (...) My point is that he is "gutless"! (...) How ironic! Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give your tired, anti-semitic trolls a rest-- you have ploughed that ground enough. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Those weren't his decisions, but of the secret service. It is their job to ensure his safety-- they did what they felt prudent. You are a cretin to imply otherwise. (...) predecessor? What is your point? Merely more blathering? (...) Trolling (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It would have been even nicer if the west had not armed SH to start with! (...) So why does the USA support Sharon; is he not a psychopath with chemical weapons? (...) Why? (...) What does Bush do about Sharon using "living shields"? (...) (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I seem to remember he ran around like a headless chicken? How many bases did he hide in? How long was it before he spoke to the nation? Rather than leading your country in a time of need, he chose to hide under his bed. His own words: “I was (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fine, let's all chip in and help, but first, ensure that no warlords, dictators, tyrants or the like will EVER recieve any of this funding. Prove that every penny will go towards aid and none of it will make anyone else rich and I'll back the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I give up. Why? (...) He served his country in the National Guard (he was a pilot). I fail to "get" your winkies. JOHN (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is it when you say the word "gutless", I think about how Bush Jr reacted on 911? ;) Also, how did he avoid the draft in ’68? Was it because: a) he was too drunk? b) he was too stupid? c) he was disallowed as monkeys can't fly planes? d) (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before I get to my point..congrats on the CSotW. You earned it! (...) Last time I checked, peace is exactly what we're striving for. We didn't ask for attrocities to occur against any people of the world, but they occured anyway. (...) Because (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Spoken like a true Canadian. <rant> I find it interesting that even with all the disarming of our military power over the past 20 years, that there are folks calling for even more dispersal of our meager military might. Want to prevent the US (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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As NPR has said over and over again, Saddam's dictatorship was achieved through America's backing (against Iran). It is then our obligation to undo this mistake. How the peaceniks lambast us for both acts is a blatant contradiction. In fact it only (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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(...) What am I to think-- that you are defending Terry's post? It was quite possibly the stupidest thing I've read in this NG-- right up there with your infamous anti-semitic rant. (...) Sorry to disappoint. I find *your* comments highly amusing-- (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Which is more falsely presumptuous: american imperialism or calling upon supposedly peace-loving countries to follow through on standing down nuclear weapons? "Idiot" is polite given the context. I guess you are all in favor of the "preemptive use (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm. Stylish, pithy -- what's not to like? Maybe we americans could do worse than excel at being "south of Canada" -- or "south of Quebec," for that matter... Beats out imperialism by a good measure. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And you have the insolence to call *me* an idiot??? JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hum... Maybe not ashamed of your country, but of its attitude in this crisis. A crisis it started. (...) Selfinsh? I dunno. I'd feel more selfish going around posting how cool this is, totally ignoring this tragedy. But I understand your (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's broken because of USA. This war proves that USA should be disarmed once and for all. Enough with USA's permanent wars. For over 50 years now USA has been the terror regime holding the world on the brink of a nuclear war. USA should be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sorry John, but I read the whole thread and my ruling is that you are an idiot. Believe what you want, wave your little American flag thinking you are the center of the universe, that your Prez is right, that Hussein is the Antechrist itself, that (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Terry, As much as I generally loathe wading into .debates, I feel I have to speak up and agree with you, or at least your political stance. I've been arguing all day, seemingly with the rest of my bit of America (backwater Michigan, so one can (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Others are thinking this way as well: (URL) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know if this really is just about oil, then every American citizen has the right and duty to put a bullet through Bush's head for flagrant misuse of military power. However I doubt that is the case (after all it would have been much easier (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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So I was coming here to see if people were talking about the war and the first thing I noticed was this : I win this weeks Lego cool site of the week. *sigh* yipiii... :-( Don't get me wrong. It's an honour that I'm very happy about. I've worked (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where does this number come from? Someone else (John Derbyshire) did some digging and came up with 34% of the world's GDP, using IMF figures. That's not the same as "wealth" so what is meant by that? (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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One Libertarian's view: Support insurgents aimed at overthrowing nonfree states... they're making their own choices to work for freedom (URL) view, not necessarily mine) Another Libertarian's view: Don't support a hyperpower throwing its own weight (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is more offensive to me than openly going for an oil grab -- the fact that you believe these lies. When this is over and we have turned over all of those oil fields to the people of Iraq without western companies like Halliburton (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: And it's not>sour grapes, by the way--the actions of Jeb and Harris prior to the >2000 (...) You know what-- voting irregularities occur all of the time and all over the place. Only because Florida (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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