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This was the first *I* had seen of this, but maybe someone's already posted here about it: (URL) Iraqi soldiers have crossed the Kuwait border and tried to surrender to British forces - because they thought the war had already started. "The motley (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Orion: I believe we have both the means and the intelligence (spy-style intelligence) to go after A.Q. (a well-known terrorist organization that claims at least some part in the WTC disaster and that has few, if any, sympathizers) -- but we do not (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It may seem strange, but there are Iraqis with mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, husbands, wives, and co-workers too. I expect the vast majority of them mean you no harm; most of the rest are just following orders like (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The bottom line is this: When I joined the Navy six and a half years ago I took an oath. Basically, among other things, it said I would obey the President and other officers appointed above me. Do you renig on an oath simply becuse someone (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) God only knows what the other 58% think! ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've heard figures like that, and you're absolutely correct that the trend is worrying. Of similar concern is the tendency to group Saddam and al Qaeda together simply because they can be broadly categorized at "Arabs who hate the United (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I read in a newspaper the other day that, according to a poll, 42% of the US population thought that the reason for the plans for war against Iraq, was that Iraq was allegely behind the 911 attacks on WTC and Pentagon. If the result from this (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Distant Early Warning. The network of radar bases in Alaska and Canada's far north intended to give the earliest possible terrestrial warning of incoming transpolar missile attack targeted at either the US or Canada. Not the most critical (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) About the "Wag the Dog" issue (one of the movie posters had "Wag the Dog Productions..." When Bubba had his 70 hour war, weren't the Republicans all over that, calling it 'Wag the Dog' (the movie was just released a few months before, iirc), (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Larry--my apologies for being abrupt. (...) DEW? Most times I love acronyms... (...) To this I agree--throwing our hats into the same ring as those who commit atrocities is the wrong thing to do. But here we sit in the 21st centruy, in (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) of you may already have seen these... (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I've mentioned, I deplore this stupid, unjustified, pre-emptive, and distracting war. Having said that, my impression has been that France, China, and Russia are particularly demonized at least in part because they have presented themselves (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nor do I. Canada has been a staunch friend of the US far more often than not. (...) Here I think you may want to check your recollection better. Who mans the DEW? (...) I'd not be so dismissive so quickly. His arguments are sound, they're just (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Canada is in this list? This is why I disdain American political hacks (of course I distain Canadian political hacks as well... ;) ). I don't recall Canada ever 'begging' protection from the US. I don't recall Canada ever (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is all too easy to demonise France, China and Russia; but the reality is that most nations are against this folly. As far as I know, there are only two nations where the majority of the population support the looming war: the USA and (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not, and since 12.09.02[1] there has been even less of a stomach for it. It is everyone’s "job" to bring justice to the world... at the micro and macro level. Invading Iraq is not "justice", nor is bribing other dictators in order to get (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are not the consequences of doing what you're told also severe? Obviously, I don't know anything about what you do for the services, so this is hypothetical. But after enacting butchery on countless innocents, you will have a lifetime to (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HBr3GH.189p@lugnet.com... (...) There was a fascinating programme on the telly recently with various ex stewards and stewardesses telling stories of their days in the air, and it was (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Orion: It's a vexed issue. If you read some of the other articles you know that the legality of this possible war with Iraq is very much in question. If you are a catholic I think the Pope just gave you the basis for objecting to war on religious (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought "I was only following orders" was no excuse? Scott A (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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