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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes: [snip] (...) [snip] (...) Well, at least with no journalists there, it's a chance the reports could possibly be accurate & unbiased. ROSCO (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What a fool I am to have waste my breath engaging in any conversation with you. It won't happen again. BBye. (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well.... I agreed with everything you said in the parts that I snipped away, but I guess maybe I should have dug up a Clinton era example alternate history. (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:Gws7tC.8xt@lugnet.com... (...) security. (...) suck up (...) The 'security' move that puzzles me is not providing metal knives and forks with your inflight meal, but only plastic (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For the record, I knew your position on this. Sorry if it seemed otherwise. I think we are very much on the same page on this, politically. Thought experiment-wise, and the pleasures hidden therein, we may be of different minds. Then again, (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My guess would be that the possession of weapons by Palestinians in the occupied territories, is regulated by the Oslo accord. This agreement regulates a number of issues in the area, for example Israeli settlement construction and the mandate (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think Richard and Chris answered most of your other points. (...) Well why did they not let the UN in? (...) Indeed it does. (...) Do you have proof of that, or is this your old view: Palestinians = terrorists. (...) It should be the press's aim (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, we're not. I speak from experience when it comes to airport security. Talk about your window dressing? More hassle, more inconvenience, more delay, but no more actual security. Just a big shiny new agency to suck up tax dollars and (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Only if you say so, Lar. "The scurrilous loss of freedom in the name of security, and other changes, and blindly support(ing) the Prez" would almost be worth it IF we were getting real value for those changes. That's a HUGE if, and it just (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd prefer that Israel just issue the caveat that when they feel the need to shoot in a particular direction, they aren't going to hold their fire merely because members of the press are in the way. Then, the press members can make their own (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, You really are a worry. I wish I could just dismiss all the news I dislike as being part of some sort of conspiracy. Life would be so much easier! The facts were: 1. Heavy gunfire coming form Jenin 2. Israel, a nation with an appalling (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well the West Bank is the world's worst place to be a journalist: (URL) A (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking of damned if they did, damned if they didn't... (and otherwise only VERY LIGHTLY linked to this thread if at all) (URL) so happens that I do not quite support the theory that KP is advancing (that we need to line up docilely for the (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) bias (...) Hmmph. Media, schmedia. A quote from the news this morning: "Israel has had to endure 5 suicide bombings in the last week, 2 of which resulted in deaths." It has been my understanding that *all* suicide bombings result in at least 1 (...) (22 years ago, 26-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought they called themselves "the right" because, for all their faults, they retain a healthy sense of irony. 8^) Dave! (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is (...) I hope that the majority of scientists are out trying to prove the null hypothesis! The whole goal of the scientist is to devise every possible way of disproving their idea and carrying out those tests. Only when they are unable...and (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Correct:-) You know Chris, they don't call the right "right" for nothing;-) (...) Which leads to the question, why do "studies" at all? Seems to me that their purpose is to influence popular opinion by their results and advance agendas, (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just like the center appears to be the left when viewed from the right. Right? Non serious studies are those that set out to support a point as part of a funded agenda rather than to seek the truth. I would suggest tobacco health studies done (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. What irks me is the unwillingness of the media to acknowledge their own leftist leanings in their reporting, and their willingness to go way beyond the scope of their job description. (...) Possibly. But again, the arrogance, the (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I love you guys. Well, it's been real...back to work. But first I gotta go return my Gunship at KayBee! Just kidding =) I feel good today, hope everyone else does, too. -Matt . (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is more of an unobtainable goal than an actual job description. Balanced reporting is a moving target and the best a reader can hope for is to understand the bias of the author of any given text -- then the reader is well positioned to (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Serious"??? As opposed to what other kind?:-) Well anyway, from the left, the center does appear to be the right;-) The reason the rumours of a "massacre" lived so (...) No, the rumors persisted because the media was so jaded by their bias (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I have said before, serious academic studies have shown that the Western Media has a pro-Israel bias. The reason the rumours of a "massacre" lived so long was because the Israel did not allow the press into the area (indeed they would (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd like to brag about a scam I pulled of in my college years, could we have a no-flame support group for this sort of thing on LUGNET or is everyone here more morally complete than me? TRU probably hated me, but KB and my LEGO pile loved me (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Pesonally, I don't appreciate the braggadocio aspect of the original post. However, heres a counter example (hypothetical of course)... Suppose someone takes the Target ad into a WalMart and asks "see this ad, will you match Target's price ?" (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But it could be illegal just publishing the novel. Just look at the DVD CCA / MPAA case against DeCSS. ROSCO (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Congratulations to everyone concerned in regards to their congnitive deducing skills. I had to read half the thread before I had fully figured out what Matt had done and some had already flamed him in the first few posts!! Not much to add here (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with you--if I'm writing a novel, I can "conceive" of any number of ways to commit fraud or theft or murder, but in itself that's no wrongdoing. Though I suppose that, if I commit any of those acts, my pre-planning might incriminate (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I misspoke, but I'm not sure that's entirely your grievance with my post anyway. Rephrase above to "My guess is they're *also* mad at him..." Not to imply that people aren't mad for other reasons, which I think they are. (...) (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) thank you for posting these links. sheree (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not necessarily true at all, and it would be somewhat narrow and narcissistic of a person to decry only that which he could not bring himself to get away with. The reason I abhor murder has nothing to do with the likelihood that I'd get caught (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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I think it has more to do with the fact that he came here and bragged about it then it has to do with it actually being wrong. If you are going to do something shifty, the least you could do is keep it to yourself. Bragging about it is just asking (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Agree 100% :) My guess is they're mad at him for "getting away with it". Something like: "I couldn't bring myself to do that as it's against my moral sense, and I, as a result, think that nobody should be ABLE to get away with it. So I'm mad (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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These devastating articles reveal a lot about I have been saying about the bias of the press WRT to Israel and the Palestinians. (URL) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip entire debate of fraud on target, Wal-Mart of Jango Fett Slave I> All these wonderful posts on Matt commiting fraud... =) After reading all these post for and against his actions it makes me wonder if those who are mad at him are INDEED mad at (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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I dunno if it's just me noticing something that really isn't there but... Holy Super IQ Batman, these people are intelligent! Having never graduated from any post secondary institution, I at least always prided myself on being at least a little (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if the wrong, which started so many years ago, which is also continuing because it is being perpetuated by *both* sides, continues? Who's at fault *today*? They *both* are. Let me try a different analogy and see if you like it better. (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) I can't agree HK is all that good a comparator. The cold war also had a huge impact in the ME… this was less true of HK. (...) What if the wrong, which happened so many years ago, is continuing? (...) You are using the actions of a (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bingo! FUT: .off-topic.useless-pastimes ROSCO (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I agree that both Iraq and Iran have been very influenced by the West and could evolve into productive states on this planet, but of course that very westernization is what is driving the Islamic fundamentalists in those countries in the first (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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