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(...) Why not just abolish taxes for schools rather than having the half-way measure of vouchers? No question of the government subsidizing religion (and who has the biggest chain of private schools? I'd guess the Catholic Church -and believe me, (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fine, but I *really* am asking why you think private is better (and I don't mean just for those who have the money to pay for it. I mean for the nation) You don't appear to have evidence yet. The example you give is interesting though as I the (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The vouchers was a great idea--you send your kid to whichever school system you're most comfortable with, whether it's run by your church or someone else, or even home schooling, and your tax dollars goes to that school system. In this way (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Simon Bennett writes: <snipL (...) Oh how I wish they would privatize the education system here in the states, but due to the power of the teacher's unions it won't happen country wide anytime soon. I know a few cities (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There might not be an obviously *stated* implication, but an *inherent* implication--"Those that don't have money, don't get" I am charging money for the services I render, and if you cannot afford to pay, you don't get my services. It's *in* (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. Can anyone who thinks a public health care system is a bad idea please explain why that argument does not hold for a public education system. To me, and I would guess to most who support these two things, they are both about ensuring (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, as a criticism of public-funded programs, it wasn't a very strong point, so don't feel bad if you don't understand it. We've had countless discussions here about the US Gov't prying into everyone's dirty laundry (or medical history), and (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me clarify :) It wasn't Nixon who got the kids in the car, it was the guy who worked in the West Wing. The worker got his kids in the car, drove up to the white house and pointed out to his kids that the most powerful man in the free world (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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My post was a rant. In oh so many ways I am thankful that our neighbour to the south is the USofA. I don't think I would be as happy if *any* other country was our closest trading partner, and I will forgive *any* country's transgressions that had (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Fredrik, I agree with what you say relating to Likud. John, I would like to add that just because the your views and Likud's concur it does not mean that anyone is "proven right". Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is not consistent with my understandment of the recent events. Are you refering to the decision by the dominant Israeli party Likud to forever oppose the creation of an independent Palestinian state on the West Bank? Apparantly, Sharon is (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I am already being proven right, because it appears even today that Israel will refuse to allow the creation of a Palestinian state that is lead by murderous thugs like Arafat and his terrorist organizations. And frankly, I don't blame (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Most"? *All*, and by a long shot. (...) Yes, but while we're at it, we need more warm places to vacation, so let's annex Central and South America, too, and become The United States of Americas:-) -John (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, just to get in my usual nit-pick, Canada may have come up with the variant called "ice hockey", but the origin of the game of (field) hockey is actually unknown. 4,000 year old drawings depicting men playing a version of the game have (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The 'American System' is broken. That is why I said the 'ideals' of the constitution. If the system was working as it should then most of the problems would not exsist. There is no such this as a perfect system but the ideals of the (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[snip] (...) Ah, I see. [snip] (...) Well if 5 Arab armies had not attacked them they probably would not have. (...) *If* it meant peace then yes I do think Israel would hand back the West Bank. That was why Barak was elected and offered peace to (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Let me begin my "pro-American" Rant by saying that I do truely love Canada, in my heart it is a very close second to the nation of my birth, so please do not construe my remarks as "anti-Canadian", as that is not how I intend them. But I certainly (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I just can't help myself... Urge too irresistible... Must quote _Full Metal Jacket_... ARGH! Forgive me... --- Pogue Colonel: Marine, what is that button on your body armor? Private Joker: A peace symbol, sir. Pogue Colonel: Where'd you get it? (...) (22 years ago, 13-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. :-) Bruce (22 years ago, 13-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe that the most un-American place in the world right now is America. If this 'wonderful' country was founded on 'freedom' and the 'Pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness', it ain't showing right now. 'America-Love it or (...) (22 years ago, 13-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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