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(...) Can you be more specific? If passengers didn't want to travel by air there would be no problem, would there? There'd be no airlines! Why shouldn't airlines shoulder the whole cost? (note that in a free market there is no difference between (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Under duress? Not great. Voluntarily? Really bad. (insofar as a system of morals can have feelings... :-) ) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why shouldn't we? Why should someone who rarely or never flies pay so that folks like Larry can fly once a week or more (not sure how often Larry flies, but he's a good example of a very frequent flyer here)? If aircraft are truly that (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry if this is a repost. I lost my cookies somewhere. Anywho... I don't think we got to closure on this (or much of anything else, lately) so don't be sorry. I am not sure I follow this argument. You are going to have to elaborate. I will (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just as our government would not allow the demise of Ansett airlines - especially just before a federal election! Be interesting to see what our PM does now he's been re-elected... (URL) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry for bringing it up again, but this is exactly why I think it's unfair to lumber plane passengers with the entire cost of "global security". ROSCO (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) to (...) Sure, that'd be pretty impossible, I think. However some rather large evils have been left un-righted, due to political pressure. I just think the assertion that the US is "good" doesn't hold water. They're good when it suits them. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How does your system of morals feel about your actually assisting evil because to not do so would be painful? Chris (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As someone that doesn't think rail has gotten a fair shake at the feeding trough (rail owns its own right of way, which it pays tax on, trucks pay pretty small fuel taxes (5000 a year per truck does not buy you a lot of highway) and nothing (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, sorry, I think I took it the wrong way. :-/ but I wanted to point out that (...) oh ok, again, my bad, sorry bout' that! And I'd like to mention, especially to those that think that I'd be (...) Keep trying! It takes a while,(took me a (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good one! Mladen now officially has a Free Pass from me, per Eric's request. He can do anything or say anything he likes about me or anyone else and I will do my level best to just ignore it. His own words are refutation enough, really, at (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The US has a history of letting things slide until greatly (and sometimes, repeatedly) provoked. You can argue that's not "morally right" (and I'd tend to agree), but it nevertheless is reality. Further, I am not in any way shape or form going (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Quote the Sticker: "Ask a Teenager - They know everything" Santosh (whos happy at not being a know-it-all teenie bopper) (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) thousand (...) Probably. I just didn't really see the relevance of it to the topic at hand, given most people, including moral relativists would probably take that view. (...) Yep, I definitely agree here. But back to the topic... Q: If the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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As I don't feel like checking out all of Mladen's past posts within the past year, I'll take you're word for Mladen's posts. Like I said(or meant to say), I'm not trying to attack Mladen or you, but I wanted to point out that Mladen has a history of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Mladen, Firstly, this isn't "us" against "them". I couldn't care less about the Larry vs. Scott crapola, nor do I have any positive feelings for the little cabal you're trying to assemble. This is about some INDIVIDUAL whose actions are again (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Associated Press Top Story November 9, 2001 Amtrak Told to Plan Liquidation (URL) November 9 6:12 PM ET Amtrak Told to Plan Liquidation By LAURENCE ARNOLD, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal panel ordered Amtrak to come up with a (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.trains)
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(...) Sorry, i'm a comedian by nature. Could YOU be so kind and check (...) Sure, ....yep same person. Indeed, but what do you not understand about a years diference between posts?!?!?! Mladen is NOT like that anymore, it is pointless to try and (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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If I can be so kind? Don't make me laugh. Could YOU be so kind and check the names on the posts....yep same person. Mladen does some really nice work but can be hot tempered and irration at times. I'm not saying all the time, but on occasion. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you'll be so kind as to check the dates of those posts, compared to the ones I posted? more than a years diference, nuf said, -Geordan- snip (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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snip (...) Never. (...) (URL) Larry, he hasn't, he has said the oposite, and I KNOW that I missed a few. -Geordan- snip (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow... A lot of B.S. As usual... (...) When have I insulted the contributions of others on a regular basis? Go to .space, or .build, and you'll see how much I am in awe of some of the builders. (...) Wow, am I supposed to be impressed by the amount (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was unaware you were packed in my suitcase and on the road with me, or living with me in my house when I am home. Failing that you really have *no idea* what I spend my free time on, really. *All* my free time here? *Hardly*. And I hardly (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe that's exactly the point he's trying to make. I posted this even though I do not 100% agree with everything it says and this is one of the areas where I'm a bit spongier. I am not too keen on wiretapping for the sake of "seeing what (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heck, I can answer that one... What if there were no terrorist threat? Should we expel and disallow Nazism and KKK-ism in the US? How about Communists? What about anti-abortionists? What about Fox, they're often anti-government. At what point (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From the article: "Yes, we knew all that, and so are now told that our intelligence agencies are inept, naïve, and worse, for not spotting the hijackers in advance. But we also surely suspect that, had any government watchdog agency swept down (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? Do you even know what we are talking about here, Sproat? I throw your own advice right back at you! If you want to defend Larry, go ahead, but don't tell me to "shut the hell up". If anyone should "shut the hell up", it should be Larry. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: Lindsay you troublemaker--get out of .debate and go answer my .military question! (...) Ah--I was confused, because I wouldn't have thought that an adult could have been kept against his (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It depends, I think, on what he means by "Catholic" versus "Christian" in that context, Dave! (See? A conforming Dave! And another one! I'm good at using Dave! See? Did it again!) It could mean one of two things: -He hated Catholic school, so (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Rest assured I'll defend moral relativism. :) (...) Honestly, I think it's because most people don't understand (or "really believe in") but still subscribe to moral relativism. Do I think bin Ladin is evil? No. Do I think he should be stopped? Yes. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Lar, why the cheap shot on Mladen? You know he's 16 and your an adult. Please understand that while you may have sufficient logic and a decent head on your shoulders, what I remember most is the unkind remarks and the constant opinionation. You may (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More Hanson: (URL) article continues showing why moral relativism (and a host of other things like aristocratic guilt reflexes and general politeness) lead to quagmire thinking. I especially considered the bit about how "UN" sanctions morphed (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Think about what you are saying. Are you suggesting that Mladen needs to stop inflicting his opinion on just about every decent sized thread in just about every group. He would have to start doing that before he could stop. Conversely, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Mladen, Sounds like someone needs to sit back, shut the hell up, and take a long, hard look at their own advice. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is. I'm sure I'm not alone. (...) What makes you think I admire Mladen on this. Do you think I agree with him when he insinuated you were: "slow", a "jerk" & "dumb"? You, I and Mladen all agree on one thing: you are arrogant. Your (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) By some. Maybe. But I'm not talking about THIS forum. Factor off-topic.debate out, it's not relevant to what happens elsewhere. I'm mostly interested in the perspective of people other than you and Mladen... you're welcome to your mutual (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sigh... it was a joke. Who ever said Germans don't have a sense of humour? Probably the same guy that said all Scotsmen are tight. :) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now now Mladen I am no saint. ;) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, This is rich coming form you. You are recognised as being one of the biggest mudslingers on this forum. Shame on you. I also noticed that you have not apologised to Mladen yet for claiming he was “slagging” Amy(?): (URL) on you twice. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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