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    Re: Brickbay problems........again —Mike Stanley
   (...) Although if the actual problem is related more to the incompetence of the staff at the current company, moving may help. Kinda odd to think that things went so well for so long and then turned bad, but who knows - they might have had numerous (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: Brickbay problems........again —Morten Soerensen
     (...) Hi Brickbay Fans :-) I have played with the numbers as well, as far I know has Dan so far had a revenue since the opening medio June 2000 of approximately USD 450-500,000 - that gives him only a profit of USD 9-10.000 since the beginning. (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Mike Stanley
      In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Morten Soerensen writes: <snip> Don't care to speculate about the numbers like that, mainly because I'm not that fond of math. I hope Dan's making a killing from Brickbay, especially given all the effort he puts into (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Brickbay problems........again —James Brown
      (...) I'm pretty much the same way, although I'd kick in as a buyer, I'd rather that sellers were carrying the extra weight. As a seller I'd happily go 3% - in fact I would have been willing to do 3% from day 1. James (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Brickbay problems........again —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Yes, sellers should either carry ALL, or at least the large part, of any increase. They can in turn raise prices. I had a nice father send me a note, he wanted some garage doors for his son, (but couldn't place an order because Brickbay was (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Larry Pieniazek
      Thanks for this analysis... now for some nitpicking, mostly around word usage (...) It is probably more accurate to say that the site has had a *turnover* of 500,000 USD, the gross amount that sellers have received for sale of their 1.3M parts (or (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Brickbay problems........again —Morten Soerensen
      (...) Hi Larry, Sorry about the mix-up in the words (I'm from Denmark), what I meant with the numbers was exactly how you described it - the assumed USD 500,000 is what I mean there has been sold parts for - the amount is calculted as current orders (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Harvey Henkelman
      (...) I'm with you guys 100% on this, count me in too.-Harvey (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Troy Cefaratti
     (...) 10 (...) on (...) I must say that I think chargin on both ends is not such a good idea. I think sales volume would decrease dramatically if the buyers were expected to pay just for the opportunity to buy anything. Of course, i'd also not like (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Brett A. Antaya
      I just have 2 cents to add to the discussion. Cent 1 would be to charge a store opening fee in the neighborhood of $25. There has been aprox 120 new open & active stores since November of 2000 at which times there was only 110 open & active stores (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Frank Filz
      (...) While I certainly value a good venue, a $25 startup fee would almost certainly mean I'd never start a Brickbay store. I'm not sure how much volume I'll do, though I do need to start a store and start moving some of my stuff, but a startup fee (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Brickbay problems........again —Dejan Pavlovic
       Hi all ! Regarding 1st cent - shop oppening fee, I do agree with Brett and I'd pay around 25 $ anytime, but yes - it would retract new sellers. Therefore my proposal is to charge all the shops with 5-10 feedbacks and more! I don't think shop owners (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Ray Sanders
     This thread is a month old, but I've had a few thoughts on the subject and believe its a good time to toss them up for discussion. I will start off by saying that the current fee of 2% of sales is a legitimate and valid fee and should not be (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Paul Janssen
      (...) Good idea, I hope many fellow sellers/buyers join this discussion (...) Agreed, 2% seems fair (...) I think a shop opening fee is reasonable. It should not prevent a serious seller that has something to offer to join Brickbay, but it may deter (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) <snip some thought provoking ideas... which I think are good starting points for discussion> (...) I agree with your thinking here. (...) I agree, this is a very serious problem. Here is a thought starter, not sure it's necessarily a good idea (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Jan-Albert van Ree
      (...) I don't think you CAN filter out the bogus buyers.... there will always be some idiot trying to mess things up for other people, unfortunately. We, IMHO, just need to deal with them case-by-case. (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Dan Jezek
      (...) I'm going to send out an e-mail survey to the top ~30 Brickbay sellers how it would affect them if the fee was raised from 2% to 3%. The proceeds from that would go to fund a relocation to a better more reliable server which would have better (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Jan-Albert van Ree
     (...) That MIGHT work, although some people might stop listing small batches of parts because it makes the profit margin even smaller. (...) 2a seems VERY unfair to certain sellers. If a seller had some very rare parts, priced "fair" he might still (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Ray Sanders
     (...) Every lot listed on Brickbay consumes resources. Those resources might be bandwidth, disk space, etc. If someone has two 'Yellow 1 x 2 Brick's listed, the odds are small that those would be desirable parts. They have an intrinsic value that is (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Paul Janssen
     (...) I've commented on this before, but want to bring it up in the context of the point raised above. Suppose you have 800 yellow 1x2 bricks listed, and a buyer buys all but a few, lets say 798, (this stuff does happen, and often) then you only (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again) —Ray Sanders
     In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Paul Janssen writes: <snip> (...) (IMHO) There are several schools of thought on this topic. One way of looking at it is that the sale of the 798 should carry/cover the cost of keeping the remaining stock listed (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: Brickbay problems........again —Kyle D. Jackson
   (...) Well, this hasn't been the first service issue for BrickBay. There has been the on-going issue of emails generated by BrickBay not getting sent out from the server. Emails such as order notifications, wanted lists, etc. Dan's opened tickets on (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-01, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 

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