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(...) Well, these days I pretty much knew that was coming. (...) Since I'm the one that beg, borrowed, and pleaded to make this happen, I'll take the heat for the decision. It wasn't a shameless attempt to do anything but deliver to the fans (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX) !
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(...) I stand behind Jake, his decisions, and his dedication to our community. The benefits he's offered on our behalf stand proudly on their merits alone, and he's done nothing but present himself as a person of character in our presence and in the (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) Hear, hear! There are some people that no matter what you do, it can't be good enough for them. I think the color issue, unfortunate as it is, is bringing out peoples' true character and showing all reading what the people here are made of. (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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Tim, you couldn't be more wrong. Lego as a company could satisfy me easily. Change back to the original grey and brown colors and move on. Correct the real problems with the company instead of changing things that are perfectly fine the way they (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) That opinion may not be universally shared (...) At this point, how exactly is that change back an *easy* thing? Have you carried out an analysis to be sure it is easy or are you just guessing, or wishing, or are you saying it is easy from (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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Jake! Thanks. I just ordered a modest quantity of old color light and dark grey bricks and plates to ensure I can complete an existing project. I will plan new projects around such parts as I already have and around whatever new parts are available (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, FTX)
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(...) Amen to that 100%. I think Jake is doing a terrific job here, especially considering the terrible shortage of asbestos t-shirts around here (and the distressing surplus of flying lumps of lava). All in all I want to congratulate you, Jake, on (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) What makes you think you are representative of the majority? I sincerely belive there are at least a thousand "don't care":s for each "the new colors p*** me off":s (...) As you don't know what the problem with the old colors is/was, how do (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) First, I'll say this is not a flame at Terry. Everyone is allowed their opinion, and if nothing else, he's letting it be known. Now, having said that, I have to side with Jake. He has been taking heat for this the entire time, even though I'll (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) I've got to agree--and thanks to Jake and whoever else was involved in making at least this much happen. The point is that at 62 bricks of said color for $5 a bag, that's a *heck* of a lot better pricewise than the old mixed assortment was, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Feh. The protest i voiced wasn't toward Jake himself as a person, but towards the LEGO Group. Like many others, I am most displeased with the Company's decision to change the colors. I didn't know that Jake himself was behind the decision of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) I was hoping, after hearing this idea was put forth at Brickfest PDX, that it would someday come to fruition. My only surprise was how fast it happened! It obviously took some work to setup but didn't take very long to happen. (...) You (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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Is that a WISH, or did the 3x3 corner come in light grey and I missed it? I know some in dark grey showed on BL stores last year, but I mean *affordable* quantities. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) (URL) that's *all* you buy that set for, the price is $20 apiece, but there's a lot else in that set. I really want to buy one when I get a job. . . (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Well, anything else would have been a miracle, wouldn't it? (...) Wow. "A quickly as they could". You are telling us that it takes that many months of Time To Market for a simple bulk pack? TLC really has the dinosaur problem. (...) I, too, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Yeah, that's a pretty good set for parts. The model is disappointing, though -- it's all about outside appearance and there's no clever functionality or interior design. (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) You seem to forget that Coke had real competition (Pepsi). If it weren't for lots of pissed-off people abandoning the Coke brand, Coke could have gotten away with the switch. The fact is that a viable alternative did exist, and former "loyal" (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Changing back would mean that LEGO management would have to admit the decision was wrong in the first place. This won't happen unless sales drop off badly. This won't happen because most LEGO is bought for kids and it's not likely that this (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) for (...) gotten away (...) former (...) I didn't forget, that wasn't the point I was making. The point was that Coke accepted the mistake and changed it back. Why they did it is completely irrelevant. It was just an example that a company, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) By your logic, I might as well take a razor blade and slash my arm because I will only lose a small percentage of my life's blood. The real question is how many people LOVE the new colors enough to increase their purchases, not how many people (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) Comment on the clones. KB, TRU, Kroger, and however man more stores that sell Lego. They all put the megablocks near or mixed in with the Lego sets. No wonder parents are confused. Can you blame them. They see the set and the color or image of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) While I agree, I'm completely sick of hearing everyone spout off about this whole thing. Lego has the right do what it wants with its product line. Buy it or don't buy it. There are other things way too important going on to throw a fit about (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I agree! I think about the only thing continuing to beat this dead and now decomposed horse is accomplishing is positioning a few people as whiners in the minds of the great many of us who have by now let the issue go. Its such a nuisance (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Let's not forget that this very week we have seen evidence that our complaints have been heard and that TLC is taking action. This is no dead horse in my eyes. My hope is that the bulk parts pack are in fact a trial baloon, and that TLC may (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I don't like the fact that old grays are discontinued either. but I've made my objection known a few times, through multiple channels, and now I'm prepared to move on. I'm having trouble grasping why some people want to write essentially the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I would venture to say not many, as the change seems relatively minor. However just analyzing the delta from of color change itself may not produce the right conclusions about it's importance since you're treating it as a single factor type of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Chris Phillips wrote: (snip) (...) I think Jake responded quickly to the initial outcry, but the continued discontent is not having any added effect IMO. (...) I think the characterization of the bulk packs as "trial balloons" (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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(...) For something constructive AND cathartic, I suggest poetry: O Lego gray! The stuff of classic space, The stones of castle walls. The ravages of time erase Your hue, and now this blow falls. Your final days are numbered, One last batch we (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Well stated John! I personally believe that the ranting, raving and 'frothing at the mouth' will do more to disuade the powers that be in TLC from listening to the AFOL community. I know if this (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Certainly the bulk packs would not have happened without Jake's efforts, and I accept his assertion at face value that this is intended to be a one-time deal. However, we know for a fact that TLC is in the process of re-evaluating their entire (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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It may be old to you, but if everyone stops complaining, TLG might get the idea that the color change doesn't matter anymore, which is far from the case. TLG has been shown to be pretty clueless the last few years, so it might take a {very long (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) I don't know where he gets the stuff, but Morten Sorenson had a few hundred of the slopes for $2.50 apiece in his BrickLink store. Believe me, I'd love to see a bulk pack of those. And Tom--you didn't know those were out there? Surprise! LFB (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Maybe the community should be renamed IFOL: Immature Fans Of Lego -Lars (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping, FTX)
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The sets lately haven't thrilled me. I only buy sets if I KNOW I'll like the parts. Those 3x3 corner slopes aren't in the picture on the front of the box. If they would have been, I'd have noticed long ago. Yes, I could REALLY, REALLY use these in (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) To be honest, I only realized they were there when I went into one of the LEGO outlet stores and saw one built and in the display case. At first, because it was at a different angle, my response was "ARGH, another store set using pieces that (...) (20 years ago, 20-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Incorrect. On a scale of 1 to 10, four years ago Lego was a 10 and Mega Bloks was a 3. Today Lego is a 9 and Mega Bloks is a 7.5. So while Lego is still superior, Mega Bloks have in fact become a viable alternative in a quality versus quantity (...) (20 years ago, 24-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping)
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