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Re: Lego seems to be copying Mega Blocks
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Mon, 24 May 2004 04:15:58 GMT
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   True. But the Soviets (and now the Russians) might disagree; the Kirov and her sisters? are sometimes classed as “battleships” or “battlecruisers.” We in the US more often call them “very heavy cruisers” or “command ships.”

all best

LFB

Well actually, Russian/Soviet classifications of warships were slightly skewed to gain a ‘numerical’ superiority over the United States Navy. By announcing the construction of a battleship/battlecruiser, they could claim a superiority in warship tonnage and class to the American fleet. The Kirov class ships are equipped with 130mm (about 5.1 inch) guns, which by the WWI through Cold War rating system qualifies them as Heavy Cruisers. In addition, the Kirovs primary weapon systems are anti-ship and cruise missiles, which signifies them as guided missile ships. A battleship on the otherhand, requires at least 12 inch guns to be classed as such. While the Iowas did receive vertical launch systems with tomahawks and harpoon anti-ship missiles at the end of their lifespans, it was still their large 16 inch guns that qualified them as battleships. Finally, the Kirovs do not meet battlecruiser standards again because of their relative small gun size and heavier armor than a true battlecruiser. The last true battlecruiser was the Alaska class, of which two were completed.

Er, sorry about that. The short answer is that, no, there are no battleships left. They proved too costly for modern nations to maintain, especially with the availability of long range strike missiles and aircraft. And the Kirov class is defined by the U.S. Navy as a Heavy Guided Missile Cruiser.

Steve



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  Re: Lego seems to be copying Mega Blocks
 
(...) But this is the US naval classification system (or perhaps Jane's)--and it is therefore that also used by those of us operating in retrospect. Remember that German battleships and battlecruisers in WWI (and in WWII--Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) True. But the Soviets (and now the Russians) might disagree; the Kirov and her sisters? are sometimes classed as "battleships" or "battlecruisers." We in the US more often call them "very heavy cruisers" or "command ships." all best LFB (20 years ago, 23-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)

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