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| | | All, Well, I just got a copy of the new 2532, box image here: (URL) any of you had illusions of some sort of "Town Rebirth" let me put them to rest. I think this set clearly shows the direction of TLG in one stroke: The side windows of the "jet" are (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Mark de Kock
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| | | | | (...) NOOO...OOOooo...ooo!!!!! <<<sound of Mark, trying to open the window and jump>>> Why is TLG doing that to us? What awfull thing did we do to TLG to get this kind of treatment? I can't believe it! That's it. From now on, I will only buy SW sets (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | Ugh, Town Junior claims another victim, good-bye airport! :( And why did they put the old front ends for planes on it? (Compare with sets 6597-Century Skyway, 6582 Daredevil Flight Squad, 1818-Airplane Special, as well!) It took me tons of money and (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Sanjay D'Souza
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| | | | | | Scott Edward Sanburn wrote in message <371DD31F.8F1035C4@a...ng.com>... (...) What's wrong with the original front ends of planes? ;) I personally think they're quite cool. My first airport was the 6392 with the red and white jet (which 2532 seems (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | Oh, I like the old front ends, I have that same airport as well, plus numerous other sets with that front end. I just wonder why, since they have IMHO a better looking / aerodynamically better front end of a plane, why would they put this set out? I (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | (...) Who cares about stickers? Sure, I'd rather have window parts than plane bricks, but the real question is: does it use Jr. pieces? From the box picture, the set seems to use normal pieces. Steve (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | My question would be whether it uses thinwalls. If the plane body is mostly thinwalls and soforth, it may be worth it at 19.95, but if it's all solid white bricks, may not be. Thanks, Gene, for posting the info. (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Gene Rodriguez III
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| | | | | | (...) Larry, 2532 does indeed use thinwalls (as well as hinged slopes), as such it may be a decent source for these parts... The sticker windows though! I'm *still* having a hard time getting used to the idea. [shiver] You can't tell from the scan, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) I'm not clear on where this set is coming from -- is it an airline-only promotional set? If so, which airline? The box looks like NA-issue; it has the piece count on it (and English/French/Spanish captions). As a promo set, the airline may (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —William Toenjes
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| | | | | | | (...) When I called S@H today the rep said 2532 is going to be in the next S@H catalogue and they had LOTS of the sets in stock (whatever that means) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | (...) It probably means a BIG airline ordered them, then went bankrupt ;-) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer | (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Gene Rodriguez III
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| | | | | | | (...) Steve, If I had to guess which airline, I'd put my money on ValueJet... [insert rimshot here] On a darker note, I think what it says is that thinwalls are still in production, while window walls are not. The difference in manufacturing costs (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hmm. For the window-walls, they have to run two different molding productions, one for the white wall, and another for the transparent window. That would double the cost of producing window-walls. Then there's also the cost of assembling the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I would think not. When I worked in a plastic factory, we ran numerous plastics on the same machine, with different dies. The only cost increase would probably more scrap (More chance for error than solid parts) and the cost of the plastic (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | | (...) The Walls are still in production. The big Adventurers set has one. No panes, though, so they might not be in production. (...) Those windows have *never* been pre-assembled. I have some from their first year's release, and I had to snap the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | | I thought they were pre-assembled after a time, probably using a heat weld. Hmm... Time to look at some models.... Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) The smaller airplane windows come with a separate pane, I think. However, there is an older thinwall with an embedded (molded in, or very tightly glued) trans lt blue window. This is a thinwall that is 1x4x3 rathdr than the 1x4x2 dual (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Older? I thought that piece came out in the early to mid '90s. Can you cite a set that those came in that was before the '90s? The Airplane panels came out around 1985. Jeff (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) That's a Joshua D. kind of question. I may be (probably AM!) wrong. I just saw it at Conan's place the other night and I could not think of a set it was from so I assumed it was older. (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Joshua Delahunty
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| | | | | | | | | | Larry, do you mean the window in (URL) so (and I'm presuming this is the case, since I can think of nothing else you might mean), then this is a new-for-'94 element, as Jeff says. Rare item. It's in those two and the soccer/football-stadium "First (...) (25 years ago, 25-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | Yup, those are it. But I don't think the stripes are stickers on the ones Conan has. He had enough for me to make two passenger cars using them, so I will check on wednesday to see if I was misremembering about the striping. Am I all wet on this (...) (25 years ago, 25-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Joshua Delahunty
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| | | | | | | | | | | Dry as a bone. Two piece, glued or snapped together. [99% sure, don't have sets directly on hand to check] -- joshua (...) (25 years ago, 25-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Mark Herzberg
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) On the 6666 they are stickers, and I'm pretty sure they are on the 6548 too. I'll have to check though, don't have that set with me handy. (25 years ago, 26-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not really - look at the one Adv set that uses a thinwall with NO pane. IF they were doing it to save money, they'd leave off the windows, even if that means people asphyxiate on the flight ;-) (...) Um, any that have been released in the last (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | (...) The pic on Lugnet says right on it that is is Specially For Airlines. (...) Nuh-uh - remember, they mold to order, ahead of time. My guess is that some airline ordered them, folded, and TLG was stuck with them. -- | Tom Stangl, Technical (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Tom McDonald
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| | | | (...) There's no denying it's sad. IMO a better word is pathetic. I'm thankful that, as Steve put it, the stickers aren't pre-applied. As has been stated before, parts is parts. It's too bad that we have to look at certain sets that way without (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) You're forgetting everything released under the "City Center" theme. This airplane may be disappointing, but it's not Town Jr. Steve (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | (...) worst (...) Hmm, yeah. After perusing the catalog again, it really is strange how I just seem to effortlessly skip over it. I take back the "long time" reference. But it still gags me worse than a lot of Town Jr. Sticker windows? That's (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, well, like has been said, I think the stickers came from some airline wanting a cheaper deal. Steve (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | (...) Why not just use it san-stickers as a cargo jet? There certainly aren't very many of those about. Jeff (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | (...) That's a good idea. It looks like a great little set for white pieces, especially for thin walls. I imagine a couple of folks could also use it to add to their own Ice Planet MOC's. I don't have nearly enough special pieces in white. -Tom McD. (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | It's OK for parts, but it is nothing like, oh, #6375, the Trans-Air Carrier. Now that was a cargo plane! :) Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Gene Rodriguez III
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| | | | | | Scott, Actually, if you compare 2532 to 6375, they're not much different. The cargo version has more wheels and engines, but the fuselage is almost identical (including the hinged roof opening). [shrug] Gene (...) (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | Well, I have two #6375, and the color scheme was great. It also has two mini vehicles, the forklift and the little car. The cargo logos were "printed" on the parts, and the back of the plane folded out to put cargo in the back. The side of the (...) (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Gene Rodriguez III
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| | | | | | Scott, I guess what I was most referring to was the size and the hinged roof being almost identical. Since I don't have 6375 and haven't opened 2532, I can't really comment on anything other than a comparison of the cover art. Gene (...) (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | Gene & All, I am not saying 2532 is a bad set, it is OK for parts. But compared to earlier sets, such as 6375, 1818 (Another airline special set, by the way!), even #6368 (The first year the airplane windows came out, 1985, I believe), 2532 is a bad (...) (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Gene Rodriguez III
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| | | | | | Scott, (...) Agreed. And none hard feelings taken. Gene (25 years ago, 23-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: 2532 Passenger Jet: Your worst fears realized... —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | (...) True, Steve. But they could be producing a lot better sets than this, say 1818? :) Scott Sanburn (25 years ago, 22-Apr-99, to lugnet.general)
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