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Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
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lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general
Date: 
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:40:51 GMT
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Jake,

I am sorry but you should know better.

First off not all of us think MS is the "Devil" nor did most of us participate
in the conversation.  You should know better than anyone that people will
always discuss dissenting/negative views more readily than post about the
positive.  Personally I could care less about this deal except if it eventually
makes shop.lego.com usable, because at the moment it is not for me.

I wouldn't take anything you see here too personally.  There will always be
those that want to state their mind and express their view.  That is the beauty
of LUGNET being an indepentant site.  We can speak our mind about TLC and that
is a good thing.  Sure some posts are misguided but you should know that being
a fan.

One thing you didn't really address in your post though was the fact that TLC
continues to neglect the Mac and Linux platforms.  This is a bone of contention
for many and a real oversite in my mind if TLC really is serious about
becomeing more technically savy.  Can you shed any light on support of other
platforms for TLC's software?

Again don't take what you read here personally.  We are highly dedicated fans
which means we often have extreme and vocal people that want to express their
opinion.  I personally don't see as much evil in MS as some do but there are
those that can't stand MS so they have a view that might not be as rationally
thought out as those with a more moderate view towards MS.


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/



In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
All,

Let me first say that this post is from an AFOL that happens to know quite a
bit about the Microsoft relationship. Brad is putting together a post to
talk about the details of the alliance as we speak. However, in the
meantime, I want to calm the storm a little.

First, let me say, LEGO has *not* sold its soul. Despite what some might
think about the company, Microsoft is not the devil, anymore than IBM, P&G,
Pepsi or any other big company is.

Second, let me say, LEGO has partnered with Microsoft on a much more content
centric basis. In fact, much of the partnership involves MSN, not
technology. There has been absolutely nothing agreed to about the RCX being
recoded, all gaming software made only for PCs, or any other Dr. Evil type
hopes of world domination. Today *is not* the day to wear black.

As an AFOL, I have to say that it was embarrassing seeing the front page of
LUGNET actually call out this relationship as a "Pact with the devil".
Regardless of your feelings for or against MS, they *are not* the source of
all evil in the universe.

Further, it was saddened to me that there was discussion about LEGO losing
its morality over this. Absolutely none of the values of TLC have been
compromised, given up, or adulterated in any way because of this alliance. I
am not really sure where that thinking came from.

Please think rationally about this event. Regardless of any personal slant
about the underlying social issues, the fact remains that Microsoft and MSN
have a huge reach. LEGO partnered with them to extend awareness for our own
brand.

It is frustrating trying to keep the group informed of TLC happenings when
so many *massive* and unsupported assumptions are made. I have a hard time
keeping up with valid issues involving the AFOL community when *so* *so*
many posts are made based on an assumption made 10 posts ago and has just
snowballed into something so far off base that there is no longer even a
shred or reality in it.

For instance, someone posted:
"They will likely roll the Mindstorms software into the next version of • Windows"

On what information was this based? What part of the press release even
talked about the Mindstorms software, or any other software for that matter??

In summary let me just say, everyone at TLC still has their souls intact.
They made no blood oaths. And I certainly am not the same Jacob wrestling
with the devil!



Jake McKee


Note: The views expressed here, do not necessarily represent the views of my
employer



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