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Subject: 
Re: Bulk Sales in the 21st Century
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lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:10:25 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Scott Edward Sanburn writes:
In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom McDonald writes:

Color still seems to be easier to change IMO rather than a mold, as I can
imagine that process would occur faster, as the machine would not have to
pause as long (if at all) in the changeover.

I disagree.

Consider the example of mold tooling that was built to the same form • factor for
the same machine. To change from one to the other requires merely a
substitution of the tooling and a change in settings for amount of plastic • to
inject, preheat, mold dwell time, cooling time, ejection rate, etc. All of
which, no doubt, are just parameters to the NC control program driving the
molding machine.

That may be, but when I worked in the plastic part plant, and I changed
material and colors numerous times when I was a Utility, a color change
merely required a dumping of the material from the hopper, blowing it out
with a air nozzle, and a purge of the nozzle. That usually takes maybe 15,
20 minutes. If you had to clean the grinder with that machine (If it was a
different material or color) that would take longer, and it was a real pain!
The mold change usually did take longer. You had to get the mold from where
it was, there was an area where we put all the molds, taking it to the
machine, with either the forklift or the crane, and then you had to line it
up in the machine, lower it, clamp it down on the machine, hook up the water
tubes for the cooling, etc. Then you need to upload the mold specs into the
machine computer (If it had one, we had some real old ones!), and do trials,
startup procedures, and quality assurance OK,  and get the mold running.
There is also setting up for the operator, boxes, stock, if you need parts
for it, etc. This takes anywhere from half an hour to two hours, depending
on mold size, what machine it runs on, etc.

I definately think a mold change is a bigger deal than a color change.

Maybe. I dunno.

I guess I would ask not how much *labor* was involved, but rather, how much
time transpired while the machine was out of production. In your description,
for example, the bull time to bring the new mold from storage has no impact on
production (if properly scheduled...) the machine keeps running the old mold
until the mold change person and the bull carrying the new mold arrive at the
machine.

There is no operator, and all the machines feed parts into the same size bins
which then go to cassettes so that helps some too.  no need to be down while
bins are fetched, those can be prepositioned too.

I suspect labor costs are a very small fraction of the rate per hour that
having the machine down represents in lost opportunity cost.



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  Re: Bulk Sales in the 21st Century
 
(...) You are just right. Actually there is a term SMED (Single Minute Exchange of Dies) extensively used in Total Quality terminology, which covers many methods to decrease the time consumed during die changes down to below 10 minute barrier (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

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  Re: Bulk Sales in the 21st Century
 
(...) factor for (...) to (...) That may be, but when I worked in the plastic part plant, and I changed material and colors numerous times when I was a Utility, a color change merely required a dumping of the material from the hopper, blowing it out (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

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