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  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
Just use a script to do that or even a small program, I don't think you need to manually change each file. Leonardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> To: <lugnet.cad.dev@lugnet.com>; (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) That's a good idea, but it requires editing *all* of the files to be released. The idea of an unofficial release is that it's quick'n'dirty - as little work as possible. Processing a large number files, even if it is just a minor change, takes (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
how about making all unofficial parts go to "unofficial" group like bricks and plates? -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:GCo1LK.Gpx@lugnet.com... (...) have (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
HMM a minor idea. group all Unofficial parts in "Unofficial" group like "brick" and "plate" type of group. -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:p61uetc27fg7opi...4ax.com... (...) I think I see it now. As far as broken models go, we don't want that. I have had a couple of those, and that's frustrating. I got your message in this (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I think I can use my part-voting-preparation utilities to generate a webpage like the ones we use for voting. So people could check out what the unofficial parts are, and either download them all in one shot, or just grab what they want. Steve (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I think Chris is right. It will be challenging to disclaim an unofficial update in a way that nobody will get upset later. When we do officialize the pieces, there will be orientation changes, and different part numbers with no forwarding (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Problems with reaching www.ldraw.org
 
Tim, I think it would be a Good Thing to make this a news item on the ldraw.org homepage. And then park it permanently on ldraw.org somewhere (like in an ldraw.org FAQ). It won't help people at the time they're having the problem, but they'll be (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) The problem I see with releasing the current unofficial parts in a single download is that it's going to make it harder for anyone who wants to help out in checking individual parts - they're going to have to download a large ZIP file of parts (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Well tell me then. Larry. How hard is it to just zip up the parts that have already been submitted, and why? Are they all not sitting in a directory somewhere on someone's hard drive? Or are they really scattered in an ad-hoc fashion? Trust (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Do you really think this is a 10 minute job? If so you must really have a low opinion of the gang, then, that they would hold out on you to save a mere 10 minutes of their time. I hope that's not the case, but rather that you're just really (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Zipping up the parts already collected: 5 minutes Writing the disclaimer: 2 minutes Uploading zipfile and disclaimer to LDRAW.ORG: 3 minutes Catching the warm glow as the parts preview is released: Priceless. For the really big tasks there's a (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) You can't have your cake and eat it too, Jeremy! Who do you think would be doing a significant portion (hopefully not all, but non zero) of the packaging task? ++Lar (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Let's not reinvent the wheel. This process is already largely done, I would think, as part of the new parts update system now in development. The interim solution needs to be quick & easy for the implementors. Cheers, - jproat (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Thank you Fredrik, for so succinctly expressing what I was feeling. I was building up a lot of frustration because I felt I had to make a loud noise in order to be heard. (...) I think the discussions should still be in the open. No consensus (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) This would work. Just don't take Steve off of the new system -- with him working on it, it's gonna be good. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrd1yq98itn.fsf....uio.no... (...) Its not a matter of hiding the work, see below. (...) This is the case. Newsgroup discussions get noisy - people tend to have long drawn out (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Chris Dee" <chris_w_dee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GCnMwn.Axw@lugnet.com... (...) Disagree. We package the parts and put a whoppin disclaimer on them. They are not official, just compiled and made easily available. We make it clear that (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Chris Dee" <chris_w_dee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GCnMwn.Axw@lugnet.com... (...) I've only done one part so far and I've had just 4 comments (1 on an "almost done it" post, 2 on a "done it but no optional lines yet", and 1 by private (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GCMuJ8.E5M@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) attached. (...) I think this needs a little modification - if the parts could be zipped separately then people could just get the ones they want, and as (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) That's too bad. I notice your parts, but I rarely comment on them because I'm not into those kind of parts that you model. Your parts are commonly related to minifigs, and I rarely use them. Besides, your parts are nearly always perfect (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Agree - unofficial means they may change - and if the change is to the origin or orientation then users will get (even more) upset. (...) I always do, ((URL) except maybe bug-fixes, BUT (...) ... I rarely get any comment, good or bad. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Well, when an official vote/update is announced, I'm am usually impressed at the number of new parts that I have not yet seen. So I was assuming that those parts had been submitted without having been posted, and that this still goes on. (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) It seems to me that LDraw has become a project of secrecy and inside work. When did it stop being an "open" project? When did discussions concerning LDraw cease to be done in the open? I think I missed this. I realize that whoever work with (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Most unofficial parts ARE posted to lugnet.cad.dat.parts Either that or they are available for download from the web :) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I don't think that unofficial parts should be published from LDraw. How about simply encouraging the parts authors to post their parts to lugnet.cad.dat.parts? That way, people can see which parts are in the pipeline. Besides, people can (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Winner! May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM competition
 
A *very* interesting race this time. Right from the start, the truck and the space station took the lead. And they swapped that lead several times. Then the truck started to pull ahead slightly..... Looking like a solid front-runner.... But as fate (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
As you can imagine, behind the scenes discussion is running fast and furious (not in the Mad sense, in the fast sense...oh never mind) The following are rambles/my opinions, not official statements of position (remember I am the nonvoting member who (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Carsten Schmitz" <casz@gmx.de> wrote in message news:GCMtBs.ByD@lugnet.com... (...) Good point, and I agree. I've gotta work out some management stuff on my own - especially this week. I'll also be lowering my standards of expectations for (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
Hello Chuck, (...) temp (...) it. (...) Yes. That is a nice idea but some of the parts dont still have pattern numbers or copyrights are missing or something like that. (...) parts (...) the (...) pre-release. (...) Hmm.. I am a parts authour but I (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
Hello Larry, Jeremy I'm following this thread very closely... and i have to jump in at this point. (...) I think Tim has waited to long to get help from other volunteers. There has been at least some people in the newsgroups and some via email (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) OK, so I lied, I guess I am a parts author of sorts: (URL) are on Tore's tracker. Feel free to include my updated heads. -Chuck (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) You might also ask the parts author's permission before including their parts in the "pre-release". Some people can be touchy about this. I'm not a parts author, so no need to ask me. -Chuck (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
I think I'll do that, if I can find the time (work in the real world's going to get pretty hectic over the next month). Thanks Chuck. -Orion (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Orion, you bring up a great idea that could solve the problem in the interum. Take all the parts you can find on Tore's tracker and in the parts newsgroup, put them in a self extracting archive or .zip file, and post the file somewhere like (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
I've been playing with ldraw and all it's wonderful part for only a short time now. What I don't understand in this discussion is what is the difference in an 'offical' vs 'unoffical' part. Apart from whewre I can download offical part what is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Ummmm.... Isn't that what the lugnet.cad.dat.parts newsgroup (or Tore's temp parts tracker) is for? You go looking for the part you want and install it. That's what I've been doing. What I wanted when I asked my original question (which has (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) The bugger here is that we could play what-if with the schedule all year long. I won't do that. (...) Why not? Aren't the users why the whole LDraw thing happens, anyway? (...) I would, but only to get it done my way -- quick & cheap & dirty. (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
I mostly agree so I mostly snipped... (...) How does that help? That is, suppose it would take 40 man hours of work to resolve the bottleneck and get the new process on line and running. If that 40 hours avoids 400 or 4000 hours of user effort, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Fine, okay, you can call it what you want. The fact remains, something needs to be done. I'm making it known the only way I know how. The delay in the parts update system is becoming pretty unpopular, and it begs the question: is this being (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) It can't be "justified", but stamping one's foot isn't going to help, Jeremy, and you know that. I think what we need is an unoffical update. Package them up as unofficial and tell people to take their chances. But realise that there is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) This isn't really a matter of patience; it's been far too long than it needs to be. We need a better system. In the mean-time, the factors contributing to the delay can be addressed, and quickly. e.g. What are the factors holding back the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:GCMJot.E07@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) Kinda unrelated statement, I intended it to reflect more the project as a whole. I think (and I accept that this will never be the case) that the whole (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I'm not understanding here. The parts are available in file form in a some cluster in some repository somewhere, yes? Publishing them, even in an unofficial process, would simply consist of putting them on a server. There would be little-to-no (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GCMIxI.BvL@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) Just sent another email to a few people about this. I hope there'll be some progress. -Tim (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Chuck Sommerville" <chucks@he.net> wrote in message news:GCMILA.AwH@lugnet.com... (...) I've been pushing for this inside for quite some time, with little response. Even splitting up the work for a big update among some of us who discuss LDraw.org (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Perhaps we could break the job into smaller chunks, like maybe 20 parts a week to relieve the pipeline pressure. -Chuck (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Okay, this is getting ridiculous. We need a parts update. There are, what, hundreds?, of parts wasting in the pipeline. How much longer are they going to sit there? How can holding the parts for this long be justified? Give me unofficial (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Problems with reaching www.ldraw.org
 
Several people have in the last year reported problems with getting access to www.ldraw.org. The reason for this problem appears to be that the default "time-to-live" (TTL) for TCP packets is too low. I have now recieved confirmation that this is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
hmm allright. thanks -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GCJAG3.MM0@lugnet.com... (...) had (...) not (...) another (...) files (...) is (...) other (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
"I" didn't do that. According to the email that John Miller sent me, he had converted the model to DXF and imported into Bryce 4 for rendering. What exactly he converted from, or what he used to convert with, he did not specify. -- Terry K -- (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
(...) ...I really think the demos aspect would be popular and fun. I'm hoping maybe we can settle into one of the classrooms upstairs and play/work in little groups on assorted concepts involved (I personally am interested in POVing LCAD stuff). I (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events.brickfest)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
how did you do that? so far only leocad exports obj and i couldnt find a convertor for rest of types of 3d data files bryce supports. -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
(...) Bryce, or more accurately Bryce 4, is a renderer. It is a commercially available program that is very powerful, and the results are very good. A small correction here; I made a mistake - only one of the models was rendered using Bryce 4 (the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
Terry, could you please provide me with more info on "Bryce"? Primus BuS ComStar LEGO Mechcommander: www.go.to/LegoMC (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
(...) Happy voting :-, Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
Here goes, Voting is up an running for the May MOTM. (URL) models have been rendered in Bryce. Bryce looks a little different from POV-Ray - sort of another philosophy on the idea of "photo-realistic". Have fun, -- Terry K -- (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) Jeremy, You don't have to beg... I am perfectly willing to share all the parts I have created or updated that are either official or could have a multi-purpose uses. For example, the 1 x 2 C.V.G.S. Tile is a 4-color version of a 5-colored tile (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) Regrettably, the only way I know of to get any of the DAT files posted but not yet packaged and released, is to hunt for them one-by-one here at LUGNet.CAD... :-( This is one of the reasons I was so thankful that Tore was doing the Parts (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) Which raises the question (for me anyway) -- where can I get these parts before they're voted upon? You know, strictly for preview purposes only...honest. ;-) Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) M'sieur Tim, I thank you for concerning yourself about the well-being of the parts authors. I, however, am one that actually tries to design new elements *during* his work hours (because I'm usually too spread out otherwise). As for the person (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
"Orion" <pobursky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GC9L4n.Dz1@lugnet.com... (...) That's ok. Maybe for you "what gives" is a part of everyday language, but when I hear it the phrase is usually associated with complaining, so that's how I took it. (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
No insult or complaint was implied by my message. 'What gives?' is just my way of being curious. I've been gone for the the last few month due to the fact I'm in the U.S. Navy and was just wondering why. If you find "what gives" disheartening I (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) This has come up enough times, after a long enough time, that perhaps some mention of this should go onto the ldraw.org front page (just after the "Contribute" blurb), or on the parts update page, or both. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
"Orion" <pobursky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GC97Iy.5L2@lugnet.com... (...) Well, perhaps the fact that what you've already downloaded has been free (to you -- making it available has cost volunteers time and money) could quench some of that (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Parts Update?
 
Am I the only one disappointed by the fact that we haven't had a new infusion of parts in over 6 month? Maybe I missed some earlier discussion, but what gives? Orion (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
(...) Or failing that, one of those boxes that splits a monitor signal to two monitors. Another way is using a laptop with mirroring to an external monitor. A raytracing demo would be a good thing! I see two goals for an LCAD presence: 1. Help as (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events.brickfest)
 
  RE: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
(...) I could give a hand. If there are any special demo requests (a simple POV-RAY rendering, perhaps), I could maybe prepare something. If we're doing demos, it might be a good idea to see if we can get access to a projector or an overhead (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events.brickfest)
 
  Re: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
Hey, how about a more vigorous show of hands for who's interested in talking about LCAD at BrickFest July 13-15? (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
 
  ldraw.org off-line from 8:00 to 8:30 (Danish time)
 
I move the ldraw.org server to a proper server room in a moment. Expect half an hour of downtime. Play well, Jacob (23 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Unplanned downtime for ldraw.org
 
(...) I see the BOFH is up to his old tricks again then? ;-) alex (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Unplanned downtime for ldraw.org
 
Some jerk has pulled out a cable from the ldraw.org server, so the machine will be off-line for at least two more hours, and maybe until tomorrow morning (DK time). Play well, Jacob -- Beware of the system operator... (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org to change name to be more accepting to other brands
 
(...) Fool me six times, shame on you. Fool me seven times, shame on me. ;-) Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org to change name to be more accepting to other brands
 
(...) <snip> This might have been funnier if you had said WHAT you were changing the name to... :-) ++Lar (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw MOTM winner for April 2001
 
Well here it is, April Fools day, and I have to announce a winner to a contest. Sounds like a setup, doesn't it? But all joking aside, the winner for this month is Brad Hamilton. This is Brad's second win with his awesome architecture. Way to go (...) (24 years ago, 1-Apr-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  LDraw.org to change name to be more accepting to other brands
 
Hello everybody - It has come to my attention recently that the name 'LDraw' in 'LDraw.org' is a tad discriminating against other brands of building blocks. It's with a heavy heart that I announce that the site will be changing its name in the near (...) (24 years ago, 1-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Library License
 
Works for me :) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Library License
 
(...) I am happy with this - Chris (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Library License
 
Sounds good to me. /Tore (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Parts Library License
 
Here's what I hope to be the final version of the license. Let me know if you have any comments, if nobody wants to change anything it will become the official license (that's why I'm cross posting to several newsgroups). ===...=== LDraw Parts (...) (24 years ago, 28-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  April MOTM voting
 
Whoa! Almost spaced it! But here they are, pick and choose wisely.... (URL) Terry K -- (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
Hey - A few of us have had the idea of an LDraw discussion meeting on development of software, the website, brainstorming, etc at BrickFest 2001. Our in-person meeting at the CAD Summit in NY was a great success - meeting face to face and being able (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Prototype Posted
 
(...) That's why I proposed CVS. You can comfortably think of CVS as networkable-RCS-with...ed-for-NFS ;-) Regards, Hakan (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Prototype Posted
 
(...) If the server is a UNIX server then maybe you can use RCS - I think this change/version control system is implemented on most commercial UNIX platforms and is not difficult to use. In addition to the file locking it could also give you version (...) (24 years ago, 24-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Prototype Posted
 
(...) FYI, in case anyone was getting ready to roll up their sleeves and play with this: I've added these items to the prototype. After some more playtesting, I'll post the new version on the prototype webpage. (...) If anyone wants to play around (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No one interested in editing but...
 
(...) I might be able to do some stuff this weekend if you can give me an idea of what's needed, but I can't make any firm promises. If you send me details of what needs doing I'll try and work out if I can do anything, I should be able to find at (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No one interested in editing but...
 
(...) I can volunteer to keep the linux section temporarily until you find someone else to maintain it if that doesn't require too much work (ie. just maintain a list of links). Leonardo (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Prototype Posted
 
(...) In the prototype? It's just a simulation -- the submit/upload just copies a file from somewhere on your hard drive to <prototypedir>/active/. The download would do the same thing, except in reverse. (...) In the prototype? No. It's a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Prototype Posted
 
(...) I admit that I'm pretty VB-illiterate (hey, that mix of GUI and bussiness logic always gives me headaches ;-)), but I don't see how you will manage the upload/download part. Do you intend to "talk" to a central server? I saw that "check out" (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No one interested in editing but...
 
"Daniel Crichton" <danielc@helio.co.uk> wrote in message news:GALDKH.JJn@lugnet.com... (...) Thanks Dan... I'm really not trying to lay a guilt trip here, though that may be what it seems. I, and others, have put forth a lot of volunteer effort, and (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No one interested in editing but...
 
"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GAKx7F.BCB@lugnet.com... (...) how no (...) thing (...) If I had the time at the moment I'd be happy to offer, but my 18-month old daughter still doesn't have her own room and I've been working (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Parts Tracker Prototype Posted
 
This is *not* the news all good LCAD-heads have been waiting for, but it is a small step in the right direction. For the past month, I've been working on a prototype for a new Parts Tracker. I've been busy, so developments have gone slowly. Here's a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  No one interested in editing but...
 
Wow, it looks like no one is interested in helping edit sections. Funny how no one wants to chip in, but we always get questions about when the next thing (parts update, article, software addition) will be. (and its kinda frustrating too) -Tim "Tim (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What happened reagdring formalisation?
 
500? wow thats pretty lot of parts. hope it has some custom parts in millenium facton. -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GA4Cz3.Dwo@lugnet.com... (...) (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What happened reagdring formalisation?
 
Carsten Schmitz <casz@gmx.de> wrote in message news:GA2AAx.DDt@lugnet.com... (...) Carsten - That's being addressed right now. Basically what is being done is we are developing a new parts approval system to make updates more 'realtime' to the parts (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What happened reagdring formalisation?
 
Hello Tim, I am really hoping (and not only me) we can get a parts update on the way soon. There are so many good new parts i would like to use officially... Greetings, Carsten "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What happened reagdring formalisation?
 
Farlie A <alex_farlie@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GA1J1F.Mzx@lugnet.com... (...) LDraw.org? What Lar said, its still in the works right now. Good thing this week I am on vacation, because I can jot some thoughts down when not working on other (...) (24 years ago, 11-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What happened reagdring formalisation?
 
(...) Work is in progress but it's not going as quickly as we all would like it to. ++Lar (the observer) (24 years ago, 11-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  What happened reagdring formalisation?
 
It's in the title but what was eventually decided about formalising LDraw.org? I ask because I had a new meta command I wanted to submit and wanated to send it to the right person! (If nothing fixed yet let me know and i'll put up in cad.dev) Alex (24 years ago, 11-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Looking for editors...
 
Hey... I'm working on changing the LDraw.org download section by adding OS-specific sections, and download pages broken down from there. It will start off with Windows, Mac, and Linux sections. Currently, I have a Mac editor, and I would like a (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)


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