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    Re: i admit i was wrong —Tom McDonald
   (...) bad, (...) [...] Very nice analogy. This is how restaurants, neighborhoods, dance/night clubs et. al. of all kinds start losing patronage and favor. It all starts with "I'll do what I want in here", which BTW can include the attitude of the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman
     (...) Hmm. Wow. Deep. Yeah, what Tom said. Can things be broken into levels? tasks assigned (via voluntary cooperation)? Are there sub-tasks which could be accomplished by beginners or apprentices just as well as by masters? What's that word? (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Tom McDonald
     (...) Thanks Todd. The way I see it is that he has plenty of enthusiasm, but just isn't cut out for the part-designing facet of Legodom. But as the CLSotW has pointed out, there are 1,060 ways to connect 3 8-stud bricks, so there's got to be a way (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         1060 ways to connect 3 bricks (was Re: i admit i was wrong) —Bram Lambrecht
     (...) so (...) Those 1060 connections are just considering right angle, studs up connections, though. As we all know by now, that isn't the only way to think: With 2x4 *bricks* only, you can't do much more than studs up, but you can still rotate (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney
     (...) How bout some help on rudimentary tasks on ldraw.org? There's a lot of stuff that needs to be done that is menial minimum-wage type stuff. Note: 'minimum wage' is an expression - no one's gettin paid here :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Jonathan Wilson
       (...) kl.net? As time permits I will ldraw as much of the castle sub theme (and then others) as possible, given the parts available to me for use. (e.g. the recent creation of the large 6090 baseplate has allowed me to ldraw that set) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney
     (...) I'd say not. I'm looking more for things along the lines of gathering links, making sure stuff works, making pages which are not content-critical. LDrawing sets in large volume is nice, but its not something considered 'giving someone an (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Why not? I think that Ldrawing sets is indeed useful. But then, my perspective is that of a consumer of instructions, not a creator of them, and I certainly know that I do not have the time nor the interest to get deep into part creation. I am (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney
     (...) LDrawing sets is useful, I'm not disagreeing. But the thing is Jonathan has stockpiled bunches and bunches of these LDrawn sets and will just submit a flood of them without editing out his own 'parts' first. I'm more concerned with adhesion to (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek
      Tim, You need to fix that bug in your poster SW that is not referencing quite correctly! :-) I keep having trouble finding your replies. Well, found it so here I am. To net it out, I agree with you, mostly, on this. (and I tend to think of you and (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: i admit i was wrong —Tamyra Teed
       (...) Same here, I probably should have said that a little more clearly :) (...) That's what I meant when I said that.. if no one would have ever told me that Tim wasn't an "adult" a never would have guessed otherwise, Same with Bram, though I don't (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney
      (...) <puffs his chest out with pride> ;) (...) I couldn't agree more. One, I'm definitely not a parent :) and Two, I'm a teenager and am annoyed to death of (little) kids (c'mon, we've all been there). Now obviously, Jonathan isn't a *little* kid. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: i admit i was wrong —Jonathan Wilson
      (...) i am from austraila and i am 18 and studying at university. (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: i admit i was wrong —Christian Holtje
      (...) Dear Jonathan; You *must* really want to be a part of this group to keep posting, but you really should use the shift key. I'm not sure what your plans are, but your actions concern me and are driving a large portion of this group's active (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek
       The Doctor What wrote: <snip> Not to be terse, but the subject says it all. I've not seen you around here before recently, so in case no one's said it yet, welcome to LUGNET, and nice job on the advice. Thanks. (we all could (yes, even me, otherwise (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —John Neal
        (...) Yes, I concur, but I have a question for you, Doc. Did you used to play second base for Bud Abbott?;-) All seriousness aside, this isn't RTL, and although a few folks here are known by nicknames, they have been around and everyone *knows* (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) Just turn on "view all headers" in Netscape or other modern newsreader(1) and you will see. X-Real-Life-Name: Christian Holtje So no, he's not in violation of norms or rules, settle down, cobber. PS, this probably should be followed up in (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —Naji Norder
        (...) His post _did_ have his real name in it: Christian Holtje. Perhaps your news reader didn't display the proper identity field. (I think there was a similar discussion several months ago. The name is hidded in the x-reallife-name field or (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —John Neal
         (...) Naji- "Who's on first. What's on second. I don't know is on third" "That's what I'm trying to find out, the man on first." "Who" "The man on first" "Who" "The man playing first base" "That's the man's name" "Whose name" "That's right" "Look, (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
       
            Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —Christopher Masi
        (...) Time for Wopner. Christopher (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —John Neal
         (...) I did not know that part about "view all headers":-) Learn something new every day! So now I can say, "Welcome, Christian!":-) (...) Hey, I got your hardware right here, pal;-) Actually, I *did* buy the Gateway P3 450 mz blah blah blah. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong —Christian Holtje
       (...) I believe I am abiding by the letter, if not the spirit. If you notice, the mail list (and I believe the news group) headers show who I "really" am: X-Real-Life-Name: Christian Holtje In addition, the web list is even more explicit: From: The (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: i admit i was wrong —Tom McDonald
      (...) <snipped good "Dear Jon" letter> Many good points, said in a good way. Unfortunately, I think it's all a bit too late. All these points have been mentioned before by several folks for awhile now. But thanks for saying them anyway. And welcome (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney
     (...) Yeah, I'm annoyed by it too. I quick glanced over my program's (Eudora Pro 4.2) options and couldn't see anything connected to the problem with my replies to the group. That's why I'm including your personal email address in this message, and (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Yes. I think it's time to call the question among the stalwarts and take whatever action is decided on. We're belaboring the point now. (don't ask me for my opinion, BTW, I'm not a cad stalwart, so don't count for what cad.dev decides...) (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: i admit i was wrong —John Neal
    (...) Wax on, wax off. <sorry> (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 

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