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Tomorrow if all works out well I will be able to begin the creation of the images for ldraw.org and begin coding shortly thereafter. A few things need to be worked out between now and then, and in the near future when the methods for making the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I always have difficulty remembering exactly how I made an image, so it's often difficult to add more later. Why don't you carefully document how you make the images so you don't have the same problem? I would also suggest saving a Photoshop (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Always a good idea. Heavy on the hd space, but a good idea. (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:22:17 GMT, Tim Courtney <tcourtney@avenew.com> wrote: Tim, It looks to me you have a pretty good start. Keep in mind that no matter how much forethought you put into it, changes will occur. So don't beat yourself up trying (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I was planning on carefully documenting the image-making process, yes. I was hoping to talk to someone who was experienced in documenting things like this as well. I will keep the Photoshop .psd files complete, yes. I have a 12.1 GB hard drive (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) :) But I will work towards getting the best plan I believe will work at this point.. :\ (...) Ok, that is what I need to know. Also, I believe it would be appropriate to seek their permission either through this list or email (depending if (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Good ones.. (...) Nah.. (...) Enh.. (...) :) (...) :| (...) :) (...) :( (...) I looked it up a long time ago, I think on dictionary.com, and it gave me 2 definitions - 1 was a group of companies but I recall getting something similar to an (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Here are some more possibilities, in no particular order (note that some of these could also optionally be prefixed by "The")... LDraw Project LDraw Group LDraw Working Group LDraw Developers Group LDraw Development Team LDraw Society LDraw (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hey, I like the sound of "LDraw Syndicate" :-) -John Van Tim Courtney wrote in message <199904132109.RAA131...et.com>... (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I just thought of another one: LDraw Foundation (as in the) --Todd (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [...] (...) Nice one... :) Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You've seen their sites and read their posts, now see their faces: RTL/LUGNET Legofest 1999: (URL) SP++++c(6973)[ip++++ bt2++++ ex+++ ft+++ sp+++ ut++] (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I like that one too! I also think that "LDraw.org" works well as a title - similar to the titles of other sites, for example, Amazon.com, Adequate.com, barnesandnoble.com, etc (I can't think of any .org ones, though). --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Don't forget zacktron.com :) Well, lets see here, my votes would go for either: The LDraw Foundation -or- www.ldraw.org For ldraw.org's site title. I like both of em, and though ldraw.org sports that simplistic elegance Terry talked about, The (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I would go with ldraw.org over www.ldraw.org. The www takes too long to say :) To avoid capitalization issues, you could go with all caps...as long as you choose a font that looks nice for all caps. so: LDRAW.org LDRAW.ORG (with .ORG in a (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well...ya know, you've pretty much got all the time in the world to choose the site's title -- compared to registering the domain and coming up with a Registrant name. One consideration is: does www.ldraw.org or ldraw.org make much sense as a (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [...] (...) Well, that description IMO can be easily written. I wanted to have a feeling of what people wanted the title to be so I can start making the images... If no one shows interest in deciding this, I will most likely choose The LDraw (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Also good thoughts. I put the www in zacktron.com cause I felt like it, but I see where you're coming from on this and agree with you here. (...) Probably the latter, but I would either go all lowercase or all caps, on a font that looks good (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Foundations (Was: [ldraw.org] Eve of Beginnings)
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(...) Nope, keep LDraw capitalized as-is. That's how James named it, that's how it's copyrighted, that's the trademark, that's how it'll stay. End of story. IMO, "Foundation" conjures up images of a non-profit institution (a plus) which dabbles in (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) "Consortium" does sound a little highfalutin' if you say out loud. I kind of like the sound of "The LDraw Project" Or try this, said out loud, in an overly dramatic voice (dramatic, but not to Jim Kirk'ish) - and envision a proud title: (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Jeremy beat me to it with the definition. I don't have a strong objection to "Foundation", but to me it has connotations of a funded organization that contributes monies to various causes. Heck, just read the definition. That somehow, to me at (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ohh...wait :) I was going to keep 'The LDraw Foundation' capatilzed that way, yes. Oops :) Um, my comment on that was if the site was called ldraw.org, it would be either all uppercase or all lowercase. Sorry about the confusion. (...) Hmmm... (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) connotations (...) just (...) And (...) And (...) I agree. If 'Foundation' is going to throw people off and possibly be misleading, than I wouldn't want the site to be called that. (...) Ok, yep, if we use it in the context of a title or (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You're right on the consortium. Um, I like project too. (...) I'd go with project over www.ldraw.org. (...) Yep... then again, Manhattan project had a *much* bigger impact on the world than any LDraw Project could ;) Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Shoot, Tim, you're just not aiming high enough! :-P Given enough pieces and plutonium, I'm sure we'd have plenty of takers for an Earth-shattering Lego model. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not from a minifigs point of view ;-) -John Van (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Why? Isn't DNS resolution case-insensitive? To me, it seems that that would grant a lot of freedom when it comes to bicapitalization. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hey, let's go! I got my pirhana bait and my candiru repellant, my hairnet and my blowgun. What else do you need? Though a Rio player would be kinda cool, going down the Orinoco. Pun intended. :-P Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I'll cast my vote on LDraw.org first, the LDraw Project second. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Me too. Sproaticus wrote in message <3714CCDF.AA445842@g...es.com>... (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) On the other hand, "The Foundation" at Cal Poly is the main controlling agency on campus. People tend to say "Foundation" with a very negative tone, mainly due to thier ridiculusly anal procedures and policies; despite the fact that they pay (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's great! --Todd p.s. Using capital letters in the URL on the homepage graphics might accidentally cause people to link to the site that way. Capital letters in domain names are dangerous in URLs because Netscape Navigator doesn't properly (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I wonder what kind of latitude we have here with filenames? I am thinking of what Larry Wall says about capitalization of Perl, something like "Perl" is the name of the language, "perl" is the utility you use for that language. In using LDraw (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) In theory it is, but in practice it's not always, unfortunately. Make a little web page that has links to www.WhiteHouse.gov and www.whitehouse.gov and see if your browser colors them the same. (...) In theory, yes. In practice, using caps in (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Some additional data points, for the record: 1) The LDraw FAQ document and Bram's LDraw & LEdit tutorial, (2 URLs) both say LDraw and LEdit everywhere, except when mentioning executable filenames. 2) The ldraw.doc file that came with the (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It is not case sensitive, you are correct. But it is a BIG pet peeve of me. There's this car that is in my area with www.ArsisRecords.Com printed on it -- its annoying seeing capitals in domains. The web should be IMO a media that carries its (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Wait...radiation would melt a minifig, wouldn't it? -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 "Hawaii is a unique state. It is a small state. It is a state that is by itself. It is a --it is different from the other 49 states. Well, all states (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, to me it looks like there are more interested in seeing the site named ldraw.org than The Ldraw Project....so that is what I will plan on calling it when I begin constructing images. My stipulation was backed by Todd's technical (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [...] Ok, I do get it. But I did make a mistake in my original post that caused Sproat to jump on it... I meant to say that I would keep the domain name 'ldraw.org' in lower case not change it all to 'ldraw' or refuse to capitalize certain (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Again, I would keep filenames all lowercase since issues with operating systems could come up. Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You've seen their sites and read their posts, now see their faces: RTL/LUGNET Legofest 1999: (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ldraw.org. It seems we all missed the most obvious name (and a good one, I think): The LDraw Organization Like Todd said, "organization" is ambiguous, so it makes a great name! --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) How *some* browsers work, that is. I only have two data points: - Netscape Navigator 4.51 for Win95 colors the links wrong. - Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.02 for Win95 colors the links right. Netscape Navigator represents a big enough share (...) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Whoops. So right. My mistake. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Depends. What kind of radiation? Most of what your thinking of would pass right through. Of course, "radiation" in the infrared band would melt it. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm... it sounds like you are subtly insulting us. :-) -- Terry K -- Overlord, Office of Ridiculously Anal Procedures. (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, either the radiation or the blast (sorry, I'm no nuclear physicist) incinerated just about everything in the one mile radius of the explosion... so that would melt a fig :( Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You've (...) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right. Personally, I use IE5 for browsing, but own a copy of Netscape 4.5 or something for checking browser compatibility. -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 "Hawaii is a unique state. It is a small state. It is a state that is by itself. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Possibility. I wonder how the people who have expressed like for the name 'ldraw.org' feel about The LDraw Organization? Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You've seen their sites and read their posts, now see their faces: (...) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I could very easily set up an informal poll for you, if you want something like that to help gather information on opinions. --Todd (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ugh. :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Could you? That would help get a good idea of what people want. Include options: www.ldraw.org ldraw.org LDraw LDraw Organization The LDraw Project (and the other one that people liked...plus any you feel will be appropriate) Thanks!! Keep (...) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I didn't intend it that way. I was just pointing out that "Foundation" doesn't have to mean a charitable organization. (...) I _definately_ didn't want to imply that. :) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Incorporated" is abbreviated "Inc." "Corporated" (I think) is abbreviated "Co." So why not abbreviate "LDraw Organization" as "LDraw Org." "organization" seems too long to say anyway. (25 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I thought you _were_ the pirhana bait. :-P (...) Ouch. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 16-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Listening to certain song by Enya, of course. ;) Jeff (25 years ago, 16-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) ...Would that make you the candiru repellant? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 16-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Touche' :-) -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 17-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) In the spirit of brainstorming, I put in everything that's been suggested so far, regardless of how it was received. I wasn't taking notes as we went, so hopefully I didn't miss anything. Here is the URL: (URL) can select from any of 18 (...) (25 years ago, 17-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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