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  Re: numbers report
 
(As of 10:50pm, Thursday, 18 April...) Section Totals 183 certified files. 59 files need admin review. 221 files need more votes. 209 have uncertified subfiles. 92 held files. (Total: 764 files.) Almost *two* *hundred* certified files!!! 8-D (...) (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Checking 48\1-4ring4.dat  [DAT]
 
(...) Yes, I agree. My Excel spreadsheet created file is varying by 0.0001 to 0.0002. Paul 0 Hi-Res Ring 4 x 0.25 0 Name: 48\1-4ring4.dat 0 Author: Paul Easter 0 Unofficial Primitive 0 BFC CERTIFY CW 4 16 4 0 0 3.9658 0 0.5221 4.9572 0 0.6526 5 0 0 (...) (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  3DMF - BrickDraw3D
 
About 2 weeks someone asked me about 3DMF export from BrickDraw3D, but I lost the email. If you're reading this please email me again. I can help you. -Erik (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
 
  Duplo Studs (was: [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02)
 
(...) Update: all four of them are waiting for Admin now. Thank you Carsten! -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Motorcycle rider shortcut
 
In this part: (URL) Easter refers at one point to BFCing the file. But there's no BFC stuff in there. It appears that the only change here is the title. Is it possible that Paul added it but then the name fix submission lacked that update? -- Tony (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02
 
(...) If we want to bulk up the release and clear out a bit more from the tracker, it might be nice to get the Duplo stud primitives certified. Just getting those 4 files certified would get those plus 15 more files into the next release. When the (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02
 
Since "973ps4" (the Han Solo w/ vest torso) is one of the files that is certified and awaiting release, I need to ask: Weren't we going to switch this file's pattern number with "973ps5" (the Darth Vader torso)?... (Ref: "(URL) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02
 
All the Horse files, and most of the primitives updated with BFC'ness, are now certified! The one primitive not yet certified is p\48\1-4ndis.dat, but it is not the sole hold-up for any files. Over the next few days, I'll be working on getting the (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) Actually, transparent surface should work fine. As long as they are set to write to the Z buffer when drawn, and their outlines are drawn with Z buffer testing enabled, they should work fine. The wireframe parts that aren't supposed to be (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) One problem: transparent surfaces would show the wireframe backside. :\ Steve (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
I was reading through this more, and while I still don't know exactly how it all works, I think I stumbled onto something. > I dont know how many of you have come across this technique before. I > remember finding an OpenGL demo that did this kind (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) Yeah, the stencil buffer, that's gotta be it. If you've got BFC working then you can use the stencil buffer to count how many times an edge is draw in GL_LINE mode. Edges on back facing triangles won't be drawn, so you'll only count one edge (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) That sounds like glPolygonOffset which would be part of the solution because it allows the edges to look clean. We all use that already. (...) I can see how you might accomplish some of that by manipulating glEdgeFlag when you define your (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) OpenGL has glPolygonOffset, which does what you describe by allowing you to move the polygons further away in the Z direction, where the amount they move can depend on the slope of the polygon in the Z direction. This works great, and I use it (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) The obvious case where it's useful is studs - without these lines, viewing any brick from the standard "oblique" position above & to the side, you would see a circle at the top & bottom of each stud, but no sides, which IMHO would not look (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) Well, I believe that there is something called a 'Z offset' that can be used not to actually move the geometry, but to make sure the lines appear 'on top' of the faces. Before I go more into this I need to back up a bit. I currently use the (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) I'm curious to. Everything I know about how OpenGL works says that drawing the strip as a wireframe after drawing it solidly would either produce Z Buffer noise, no wireframe at all, or wireframe all over. However, it may be that there is some (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) Tell more about this. I just tweaked a version of ldview to display type 5 lines, but only for surfaces that haven't been replaced by quad strips. It looks good with primitive substitution turned off, but with this automagic wireframing of (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) I believe that there are other ways to put these lines in, as long as you are *only* planning on using them to show the 'visible' edge of a curved surface. This is actually a question I've been meaning to ask around here, Have type5 lines been (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) On the contrary, I think that type-5 lines are very useful, and an interesting solution. They are a nice way to make sure that rounded objects are outlined with a contrasting colour, no matter where the viewpoint is. The rendering of cylinders (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why Type 5 Lines?
 
(...) I'm not sure how to quantify 'usefulness' of a line command. If you want to make outlines on simulated curved surfaces in LDraw, conditional lines are vital. I can't think of another to accomplish this task. And making the outlines is fairly (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Why Type 5 Lines?
 
What is the point of Type 5 lines? It seems to me that they are a confusing and clunky method to display lines for the visible edges of rounded objects when having no line at all would be just as visually correct (and less taxing on the brain to (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: church site needs a new host
 
(...) Thanks. I'll fix the link tonight. Steve (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Question about DAT rendering
 
(...) Err, not really. (...) Nod, you should be able to reorder without running into trouble. Steve (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: church site needs a new host
 
(...) Never existed. But that has been handled now. Jacob (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: church site needs a new host
 
(...) Can I get a :p in too? That page references this link (URL) appears to be kaput... PS: thanks for the BFC info, that's why I followed the link, to freshen my copy of LDAO so I can get the yinyang for my own self. My copy is too old to have it. (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Question about DAT rendering
 
(...) Well, on the Mac at least, the only hardware at the moment that supports two sided lighting are the GeForce3, GeForce4 and the new Radeon 8500. Everything else is going to use software T&L. My take on getting the shading to look right has been (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about DAT rendering
 
(...) Hey, I happen to *like* my default shading settings. ;-) I agree with you on the speed issue though... (...) I'm curious, do you have any numbers on how much slower it is on accelerated hardware to do two sided lighting with GL_FRONT_AND_BACK? (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about DAT rendering
 
Ken, We are obviously in the same area the moment. After completing the conversion of LdGLite to run under MacOS 8.6-9.2 (ie LdGLite (Mac)), I turned my attention to the two biggest dissapointments to me, namely slow render speeds and quirky shading (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Question about DAT rendering
 
I've been toying around with a visual DAT editor/viewer for Mac OS X, and wanted to know if there is supposed to be any kind of guaranteed rendering order on commands within a DAT file. Obviously paying attention to STEP commands would be important, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Updated website!
 
After a growing amount of information which I wanted to put on my website, I reorganized the menu structure and made a few new pages. There is a lot of new information on out-of-date pages (like my bio page); almost every page has been updated! My (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Checking 48\1-4ring4.dat
 
See (URL) Can someone check the vertices in this file? My calculations are differing on most of the values, but only by 0.0001. I used by Excel (in Windows 2000, on a Intel Pentium) and Perl (in Linux, on an Alpha processor) to calculate the (...) (23 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: When is the next parts release?
 
(...) Heh. Well, the biggest we've done with the Parts Tracker. I think the 2000-02 update was the largest ever, with 258 files. BTW, I'm showing 62 files need admin review currently. Including 13 fixes, which we can 99% count as going to certified! (...) (23 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Numbers Report
 
(...) Actually, I'm thinking of the reverse situation - the subfile is certified, but the parent file is not certified. In this case, it would be sloppy to release the subfile before the part file is released. Look at the horse files for an example (...) (23 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: winding check tool
 
(...) To check a file for BFC'ness, see (URL), question "How do I check a file for BFC Compliance?". To make a file BFC compliant, I recommend using LDAO's Editor. It includes a tool to change the winding for the currently selected line(s). My (...) (23 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView Version 1.9.3 Released ***
 
(FUT lugnet.cad.dev) (...) Do the models still load and display correctly? If so, you can disable that error message by clicking on the "OpenGL Error" check box in the error window, and you won't be bothered by it. On the other hand, the presence of (...) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: winding check tool
 
As far as I can tell, everyone uses L3Lab with the mytest6 option turned on. -Orion (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  winding check tool
 
Stupid question time. What's a recommended tool for checking (and correcting) winding? It's hard to tell if everything you lay down while making parts is CW or CCW and it's even harder if you're trying to review something. Is L3P what everyone uses? (...) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  numbers report
 
I wish the stock market had this rate of growth... :-/ Section Totals 141 certified files. 57 files need admin review. 224 files need more votes. 243 have uncertified subfiles. 94 held files. (Total: 759 files.) (For comparison): (URL) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Numbers Report
 
(...) Steve, If I recall correctly, this is not a problem, because the Tracker says that a file has "[x] subfile(s) isn't/aren't certified" if it has *any* subfiles (including primitives) that are *not* fully, totally, 100% certified... Thanks, (...) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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