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Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
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Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:50:50 GMT
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> * Keep the core color numbers from 0-50, plus some historical colors like
> Black_Rubber, Chrom or Gold for backwards compatibility.
This is done with two exceptions to follow the BL naming scheme. Teal is not
one of the BL color names, but the color values for LDraw Teal are almost the
same as Dark_Tuquoise, according to Peeron and my own observation. Light_Red is
also not one of the BL color names, but does closely resemble Salmon; again
according to Peeron and my own observations.
> * Substitute the current bit-mapped color numbers
> http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=11937 with official LEGO color numbers:
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
This is done, also using Peeron for matching correct colors to color names and
color codes. There were not any noteworthy changes.
> * Use the official LEGO RGBs for all colors
This has also been done.
> * Substitute the edge colors
This is why I started this thread, to make sure that everyone would be happy
with the edge values.
> * Use BL color names http://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp for all names
Done. Three or four colors were added that were not in Joshua's list.
> * In addition we wanna add all official LEGO colors using a 30000 numbering:
> 0 !COLOUR TLG_White CODE 30001 VALUE #f2f3f2 EDGE #000000
Why do we want to do this again? If we are using all of the official color RGBs
in the standard color code range (0 to 511), then we do not gain anything from
having these in the official file release of LDconfig.ldr. The only difference
in this set (besides the color code) is the name. It makes more sense to make
this set of names part of the language support.
> * Come up with a proposals for additional syntax for the LSC like language
> support for the color names.
I agree with Mike H. Language support can be easily added in separate files
with either the language name abreviated in the file name, or the extension of
the file.
Since the official colors have been released, here is the LDconfig.ldr file that
I have spent some 20+ hours working on:
http://www.scottwardlaw.com/LEGO/LDconfig.ldr (the edge values still need to be
changed) (In my opinion, Willy's my recent post, has the best solution)
0 LDraw.org Configuration File
0 Name: ldconfig.ldr
0 Author: LDraw.org
0 LDRAW_ORG Configuration UPDATE 2008-11
0 !COLOUR Black CODE 0 VALUE #1b2a34 EDGE #514F54
0 !COLOUR Blue CODE 1 VALUE #0d69a8 EDGE #000087
0 !COLOUR Green CODE 2 VALUE #287f46 EDGE #00773B
0 !COLOUR Dark_Tuquoise CODE 3 VALUE #008f9b EDGE #B4D2E3
0 !COLOUR Red CODE 4 VALUE #c4281b EDGE #800000
0 !COLOUR Dark_Pink CODE 5 VALUE #c470a0 EDGE #A1A595
0 !COLOUR Brown CODE 6 VALUE #624732 EDGE #594147
0 !COLOUR Light_Gray CODE 7 VALUE #a1a595 EDGE #7E8178
0 !COLOUR Dark_Gray CODE 8 VALUE #6d6e5c EDGE #4D4B43
0 !COLOUR Light_Blue CODE 9 VALUE #b4d2e3 EDGE #79B5B5
0 !COLOUR Bright_Green CODE 10 VALUE #4b974a EDGE
#A1A595
0 !COLOUR Light_Turquoise CODE 11 VALUE #79B5B5 EDGE
#B4D2E3
0 !COLOUR Salmon CODE 12 VALUE #FF857A EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Pink CODE 13 VALUE #e8bac7 EDGE
#ECE8DE
0 !COLOUR Yellow CODE 14 VALUE #f5cd2f EDGE
#7F7F7F
0 !COLOUR White CODE 15 VALUE #FFFFFF EDGE
#A1A595
0 !COLOUR Blue_Violet CODE 23 VALUE #435493 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Rust CODE 67 VALUE #B52C20 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Tan CODE 19 VALUE #d7c599 EDGE
#8D7876
0 !COLOUR Flesh CODE 92 VALUE #CC8E68 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Purple CODE 22 VALUE #81007B EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Violet CODE 68 VALUE #6874ac EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Sky_Blue CODE 82 VALUE #74869c EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Orange CODE 25 VALUE #da8540 EDGE
#FE9F06
0 !COLOUR Magenta CODE 26 VALUE #923978 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Lime CODE 27 VALUE #a4bd46 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Reddish_Brown CODE 70 VALUE #694027 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Earth_Orange CODE 366 VALUE #D18304 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Maersk_Blue CODE 313 VALUE #35A2BD EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Fabuland_Brown CODE 31 VALUE #BD795A EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Trans_Black CODE 32 VALUE #1b2a34 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Dark_Blue CODE 33 VALUE #0d69a8 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Green CODE 34 VALUE #287f46 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Red CODE 36 VALUE #c4281b EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Purple CODE 37 VALUE #640061 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Brown CODE 38 VALUE #624732 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Light_Gray CODE 39 VALUE #a1a5a2 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Dark_Gray CODE 40 VALUE #6d6e6c EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Light_Blue CODE 41 VALUE #b4d2e3 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Neon_Green CODE 42 VALUE #4b974a EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Medium_Blue CODE 43 VALUE #7384A5 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Dark_Pink CODE 44 VALUE #c470a0 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Pink CODE 45 VALUE #e8bac7 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Yellow CODE 46 VALUE #f5cd2f EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_White CODE 47 VALUE #7F7F7F EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Very_Lt_Blue CODE 48 VALUE #F0F8FF EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Light_Purple CODE 49 VALUE #a5a5cb EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Bright_Green CODE 50 VALUE #10cb31 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Orange CODE 52 VALUE #D78019 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Neon_Yellow CODE 53 VALUE #FFD700 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Neon_Orange CODE 57 VALUE #d9856c EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Glitter_Trans_Clear CODE 61 VALUE #E0E0E0 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Glitter_Trans_Dark_Pink CODE 62 VALUE #E0E0E0 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Glitter_Trans_Purple CODE 63 VALUE #E0E0E0 EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Aqua CODE 87 VALUE #B7D7B5 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Light_Blue CODE 64 VALUE #ADDEFF EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Light_Orange CODE 65 VALUE #F7BA30 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Light_Yellow CODE 66 VALUE #FFE371 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Pink CODE 88 VALUE #eec4b6 EDGE
#ECE8DE
0 !COLOUR Light_Flesh CODE 78 VALUE #FAD7C3 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Green CODE 17 VALUE #c2dab8 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Lime CODE 76 VALUE #E5FFA8 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Orange CODE 462 VALUE #FE9F06 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Bluish_Gray CODE 71 VALUE #a1a5a2 EDGE
#797A81
0 !COLOUR Dark_Bluish_Gray CODE 72 VALUE #6d6e6c EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Blue CODE 272 VALUE #001D68 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Blue_Violet CODE 89 VALUE #3430C5 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Brown CODE 75 VALUE #330000 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Flesh CODE 86 VALUE #7C5C45 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Green CODE 288 VALUE #27462C EDGE
#003F2F
0 !COLOUR Dark_Purple CODE 85 VALUE #5F2683 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Turquoise CODE 79 VALUE #00999F EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Orange CODE 484 VALUE #a05f34 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Red CODE 320 VALUE #7b2e2f EDGE
#790732
0 !COLOUR Dark_Tan CODE 28 VALUE #958a73 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Pink CODE 77 VALUE #F7C6CE EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Purple CODE 29 VALUE #8E4285 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Salmon CODE 81 VALUE #FFDEDC EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Violet CODE 20 VALUE #c1cade EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Yellow CODE 18 VALUE #f9e999 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Blue CODE 73 VALUE #6E99C9 EDGE
#6A7A96
0 !COLOUR Medium_Dark_Pink CODE 90 VALUE #F785B1 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Green CODE 74 VALUE #A1C48B EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Lime CODE 93 VALUE #BDC618 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Orange CODE 91 VALUE #FE9F06 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Violet CODE 69 VALUE #9391E4 EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Sand_Blue CODE 379 VALUE #7988a1 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Sand_Green CODE 378 VALUE #A0BCAC EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Sand_Purple CODE 373 VALUE #877c90 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Sand_Red CODE 335 VALUE #957976 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Very_Light_Bluish_Gray CODE 151 VALUE #E4E8E8 EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Very_Light_Gray CODE 503 VALUE #E6E3DA EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Very_Light_Orange CODE 504 VALUE #FECCA0 EDGE
#514F54
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Antique_Brass CODE 384 VALUE #645A4C EDGE
#624732 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Blue CODE 380 VALUE #5C66A4 EDGE
#0d69a8 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Gold CODE 334 VALUE #ffc255 EDGE
#F5CD2F CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Green CODE 381 VALUE #3CB371 EDGE
#287f46 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Pink CODE 382 VALUE #AA4d8E EDGE
#E8BAC7 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Silver CODE 383 VALUE #E0E0E0 EDGE
#A1A5A2 CHROME
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Electric_Contact CODE 494 VALUE #D0D0D0 EDGE
#66DE5C METAL
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Gold CODE 495 VALUE #B8860B EDGE
#F5CD2F MATTE_METALLIC
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Green CODE 496 VALUE #BDB573 EDGE
#287f46 MATTE_METALLIC
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Silver CODE 497 VALUE #C0C0C0 EDGE
#A1A5A2 MATTE_METALLIC
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Flat_Dark_Gold CODE 132 VALUE #AD7118 EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Flat_Silver CODE 133 VALUE #9ca3a8 EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Copper CODE 134 VALUE #ae7a59 EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Dark_Gray CODE 135 VALUE #666660 EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Gold CODE 142 VALUE #D7A94B EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Light_Gold CODE 136 VALUE #C9A147 EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Light_Gray CODE 138 VALUE #ABADAC EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Very_Light_Gray CODE 139 VALUE #D4D2CD EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_White CODE 140 VALUE #FFFFFF EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Metal_Blue CODE 137 VALUE #6A7A96 EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Glow_In_Dark_Opaque CODE 21 VALUE #ece8de EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 250 LUMINANCE 15
0 !COLOUR Glow_In_Dark_Trans CODE 80 VALUE #BDC6AD EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 LUMINANCE 15
0 !COLOUR Milky_White CODE 79 VALUE #ece8ee EDGE
#66DE5C LUMINANCE 15
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Black CODE 256 VALUE #212121 EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Blue CODE 273 VALUE #0033B2 EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Gray CODE 375 VALUE #C1C2C1 EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Red CODE 324 VALUE #C40026 EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_White CODE 511 VALUE #FFFFFF EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Speckle_Black_Copper CODE 176 VALUE #212121 EDGE
#66DE5C SPECKLE #ae7a59
0 !COLOUR Speckle_Black_Silver CODE 177 VALUE #212121 EDGE
#66DE5C SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Speckle_DBGray_Silver CODE 178 VALUE #6d6e6c EDGE
#66DE5C SPECKLE #9ca3a8
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 | | Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
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| In lugnet.cad, Scott Wardlaw wrote: You use in your description the attribute SPECKLE that is not yet official. So if we use that (I recommend that) we have to update the article (URL) as well. Only as a reminder. cu mikeheide (16 years ago, 24-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)
| | | Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
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| (...) The "besides the color code" isn’t a collateral damage but the main problem! We cannot ship the TLG numbering in a simple language file. Think about a blue car colored with LDraw code 1. Loading the TLG colors as language file you would (...) (16 years ago, 25-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)
| | | Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
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| (...) I'd like to hear some opinions on how we do define backwards compatibility? Considering that most user built their models using MLCad (no idea which color numbers are supported by Leo, Bricksmith or SR3D) which comes with very limited color (...) (16 years ago, 25-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
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| (...) I've been questioned about the directions we are going with our efforts. The current plan for the LDConfig.ldr is: * Keep the core color numbers from 0-50, plus some historical colors like Black_Rubber, Chrom or Gold for backwards (...) (16 years ago, 22-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)
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