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Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
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Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:50:50 GMT
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* Keep the core color numbers from 0-50, plus some historical colors like
Black_Rubber, Chrom or Gold for backwards compatibility.

This is done with two exceptions to follow the BL naming scheme.  Teal is not
one of the BL color names, but the color values for LDraw Teal are almost the
same as Dark_Tuquoise, according to Peeron and my own observation.  Light_Red is
also not one of the BL color names, but does closely resemble Salmon; again
according to Peeron and my own observations.

* Substitute the current bit-mapped color numbers
http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=11937 with official LEGO color numbers:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi

This is done, also using Peeron for matching correct colors to color names and
color codes.  There were not any noteworthy changes.

* Use the official LEGO RGBs for all colors

This has also been done.

* Substitute the edge colors

This is why I started this thread, to make sure that everyone would be happy
with the edge values.

* Use BL color names http://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp for all names

Done.  Three or four colors were added that were not in Joshua's list.

* In addition we wanna add all official LEGO colors using a 30000 numbering:
0 !COLOUR TLG_White CODE 30001 VALUE #f2f3f2 EDGE #000000

Why do we want to do this again?  If we are using all of the official color RGBs
in the standard color code range (0 to 511), then we do not gain anything from
having these in the official file release of LDconfig.ldr.  The only difference
in this set (besides the color code) is the name.  It makes more sense to make
this set of names part of the language support.

* Come up with a proposals for additional syntax for the LSC like language
support for the color names.

I agree with Mike H.  Language support can be easily added in separate files
with either the language name abreviated in the file name, or the extension of
the file.

Since the official colors have been released, here is the LDconfig.ldr file that
I have spent some 20+ hours working on:
http://www.scottwardlaw.com/LEGO/LDconfig.ldr (the edge values still need to be
changed) (In my opinion, Willy's my recent post, has the best solution)

0 LDraw.org Configuration File
0 Name: ldconfig.ldr
0 Author: LDraw.org
0 LDRAW_ORG Configuration UPDATE 2008-11



0 !COLOUR Black                                   CODE 0   VALUE #1b2a34  EDGE #514F54
0 !COLOUR Blue                                    CODE 1   VALUE #0d69a8  EDGE #000087
0 !COLOUR Green                                   CODE 2   VALUE #287f46  EDGE #00773B
0 !COLOUR Dark_Tuquoise                           CODE 3   VALUE #008f9b  EDGE #B4D2E3
0 !COLOUR Red                                     CODE 4   VALUE #c4281b  EDGE #800000
0 !COLOUR Dark_Pink                               CODE 5   VALUE #c470a0  EDGE #A1A595
0 !COLOUR Brown                                   CODE 6   VALUE #624732  EDGE #594147
0 !COLOUR Light_Gray                              CODE 7   VALUE #a1a595  EDGE #7E8178
0 !COLOUR Dark_Gray                               CODE 8   VALUE #6d6e5c  EDGE #4D4B43
0 !COLOUR Light_Blue                              CODE 9   VALUE #b4d2e3  EDGE #79B5B5
0 !COLOUR Bright_Green                            CODE 10  VALUE #4b974a  EDGE
#A1A595
0 !COLOUR Light_Turquoise                         CODE 11  VALUE #79B5B5  EDGE
#B4D2E3
0 !COLOUR Salmon                                  CODE 12  VALUE #FF857A  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Pink                                    CODE 13  VALUE #e8bac7  EDGE
#ECE8DE
0 !COLOUR Yellow                                  CODE 14  VALUE #f5cd2f  EDGE
#7F7F7F
0 !COLOUR White                                   CODE 15  VALUE #FFFFFF  EDGE
#A1A595
0 !COLOUR Blue_Violet                             CODE 23  VALUE #435493  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Rust                                    CODE 67  VALUE #B52C20  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Tan                                     CODE 19  VALUE #d7c599  EDGE
#8D7876
0 !COLOUR Flesh                                   CODE 92  VALUE #CC8E68  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Purple                                  CODE 22  VALUE #81007B  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Violet                                  CODE 68  VALUE #6874ac  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Sky_Blue                                CODE 82  VALUE #74869c  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Orange                                  CODE 25  VALUE #da8540  EDGE
#FE9F06
0 !COLOUR Magenta                                 CODE 26  VALUE #923978  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Lime                                    CODE 27  VALUE #a4bd46  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Reddish_Brown                           CODE 70  VALUE #694027  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Earth_Orange                            CODE 366 VALUE #D18304  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Maersk_Blue                             CODE 313 VALUE #35A2BD  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Fabuland_Brown                          CODE 31  VALUE #BD795A  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Trans_Black                             CODE 32  VALUE #1b2a34  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Dark_Blue                         CODE 33  VALUE #0d69a8  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Green                             CODE 34  VALUE #287f46  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Red                               CODE 36  VALUE #c4281b  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Purple                            CODE 37  VALUE #640061  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Brown                             CODE 38  VALUE #624732  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Light_Gray                        CODE 39  VALUE #a1a5a2  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Dark_Gray                         CODE 40  VALUE #6d6e6c  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Light_Blue                        CODE 41  VALUE #b4d2e3  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Neon_Green                        CODE 42  VALUE #4b974a  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Medium_Blue                       CODE 43  VALUE #7384A5  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Dark_Pink                         CODE 44  VALUE #c470a0  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Pink                              CODE 45  VALUE #e8bac7  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Yellow                            CODE 46  VALUE #f5cd2f  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_White                             CODE 47  VALUE #7F7F7F  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Very_Lt_Blue                      CODE 48  VALUE #F0F8FF  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Light_Purple                      CODE 49  VALUE #a5a5cb  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Bright_Green                      CODE 50  VALUE #10cb31  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Orange                            CODE 52  VALUE #D78019  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Neon_Yellow                       CODE 53  VALUE #FFD700  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Trans_Neon_Orange                       CODE 57  VALUE #d9856c  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128
0 !COLOUR Glitter_Trans_Clear                     CODE 61  VALUE #E0E0E0  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Glitter_Trans_Dark_Pink                 CODE 62  VALUE #E0E0E0  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Glitter_Trans_Purple                    CODE 63  VALUE #E0E0E0  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Aqua                                    CODE 87  VALUE #B7D7B5  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Light_Blue                       CODE 64  VALUE #ADDEFF  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Light_Orange                     CODE 65  VALUE #F7BA30  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Light_Yellow                     CODE 66  VALUE #FFE371  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Bright_Pink                             CODE 88  VALUE #eec4b6  EDGE
#ECE8DE
0 !COLOUR Light_Flesh                             CODE 78  VALUE #FAD7C3  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Green                             CODE 17  VALUE #c2dab8  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Lime                              CODE 76  VALUE #E5FFA8  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Orange                            CODE 462 VALUE #FE9F06  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Bluish_Gray                       CODE 71  VALUE #a1a5a2  EDGE
#797A81
0 !COLOUR Dark_Bluish_Gray                        CODE 72  VALUE #6d6e6c  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Blue                               CODE 272 VALUE #001D68  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Blue_Violet                        CODE 89  VALUE #3430C5  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Brown                              CODE 75  VALUE #330000  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Dark_Flesh                              CODE 86  VALUE #7C5C45  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Green                              CODE 288 VALUE #27462C  EDGE
#003F2F
0 !COLOUR Dark_Purple                             CODE 85  VALUE #5F2683  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Turquoise                          CODE 79  VALUE #00999F  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Orange                             CODE 484 VALUE #a05f34  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Dark_Red                                CODE 320 VALUE #7b2e2f  EDGE
#790732
0 !COLOUR Dark_Tan                                CODE 28  VALUE #958a73  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Pink                              CODE 77  VALUE #F7C6CE  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Purple                            CODE 29  VALUE #8E4285  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Salmon                            CODE 81  VALUE #FFDEDC  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Violet                            CODE 20  VALUE #c1cade  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Light_Yellow                            CODE 18  VALUE #f9e999  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Blue                             CODE 73  VALUE #6E99C9  EDGE
#6A7A96
0 !COLOUR Medium_Dark_Pink                        CODE 90  VALUE #F785B1  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Green                            CODE 74  VALUE #A1C48B  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Lime                             CODE 93  VALUE #BDC618  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Orange                           CODE 91  VALUE #FE9F06  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Medium_Violet                           CODE 69  VALUE #9391E4  EDGE
#66DE5C
0 !COLOUR Sand_Blue                               CODE 379 VALUE #7988a1  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Sand_Green                              CODE 378 VALUE #A0BCAC  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Sand_Purple                             CODE 373 VALUE #877c90  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Sand_Red                                CODE 335 VALUE #957976  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Very_Light_Bluish_Gray                  CODE 151 VALUE #E4E8E8  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Very_Light_Gray                         CODE 503 VALUE #E6E3DA  EDGE
#514F54
0 !COLOUR Very_Light_Orange                       CODE 504 VALUE #FECCA0  EDGE
#514F54
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Antique_Brass                    CODE 384 VALUE #645A4C  EDGE
#624732 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Blue                             CODE 380 VALUE #5C66A4  EDGE
#0d69a8 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Gold                             CODE 334 VALUE #ffc255  EDGE
#F5CD2F CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Green                            CODE 381 VALUE #3CB371  EDGE
#287f46 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Pink                             CODE 382 VALUE #AA4d8E  EDGE
#E8BAC7 CHROME
0 !COLOUR Chrome_Silver                           CODE 383 VALUE #E0E0E0  EDGE
#A1A5A2 CHROME
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Electric_Contact                        CODE 494 VALUE #D0D0D0  EDGE
#66DE5C METAL
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Gold                           CODE 495 VALUE #B8860B  EDGE
#F5CD2F MATTE_METALLIC
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Green                          CODE 496 VALUE #BDB573  EDGE
#287f46 MATTE_METALLIC
0 !COLOUR Metallic_Silver                         CODE 497 VALUE #C0C0C0  EDGE
#A1A5A2 MATTE_METALLIC
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Flat_Dark_Gold                          CODE 132 VALUE #AD7118  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Flat_Silver                             CODE 133 VALUE #9ca3a8  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Copper                                  CODE 134 VALUE #ae7a59  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Dark_Gray                         CODE 135 VALUE #666660  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Gold                              CODE 142 VALUE #D7A94B  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Light_Gold                        CODE 136 VALUE #C9A147  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Light_Gray                        CODE 138 VALUE #ABADAC  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_Very_Light_Gray                   CODE 139 VALUE #D4D2CD  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Pearl_White                             CODE 140 VALUE #FFFFFF  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 !COLOUR Metal_Blue                              CODE 137 VALUE #6A7A96  EDGE
#FFFFFF PEARLESCENT
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Glow_In_Dark_Opaque                     CODE 21  VALUE #ece8de  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 250 LUMINANCE 15
0 !COLOUR Glow_In_Dark_Trans                      CODE 80  VALUE #BDC6AD  EDGE
#66DE5C ALPHA 128 LUMINANCE 15
0 !COLOUR Milky_White                             CODE 79  VALUE #ece8ee  EDGE
#66DE5C LUMINANCE 15
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Black                            CODE 256 VALUE #212121  EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Blue                             CODE 273 VALUE #0033B2  EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Gray                             CODE 375 VALUE #C1C2C1  EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_Red                              CODE 324 VALUE #C40026  EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 !COLOUR Rubber_White                            CODE 511 VALUE #FFFFFF  EDGE
#66DE5C RUBBER
0 ---------------------------------------------------------
0 !COLOUR Speckle_Black_Copper                    CODE 176 VALUE #212121  EDGE
#66DE5C SPECKLE #ae7a59
0 !COLOUR Speckle_Black_Silver                    CODE 177 VALUE #212121  EDGE
#66DE5C SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0 !COLOUR Speckle_DBGray_Silver                   CODE 178 VALUE #6d6e6c  EDGE
#66DE5C SPECKLE #9ca3a8
0



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
 
In lugnet.cad, Scott Wardlaw wrote: You use in your description the attribute SPECKLE that is not yet official. So if we use that (I recommend that) we have to update the article (URL) as well. Only as a reminder. cu mikeheide (16 years ago, 24-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
 
(...) The "besides the color code" isn’t a collateral damage but the main problem! We cannot ship the TLG numbering in a simple language file. Think about a blue car colored with LDraw code 1. Loading the TLG colors as language file you would (...) (16 years ago, 25-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
 
(...) I'd like to hear some opinions on how we do define backwards compatibility? Considering that most user built their models using MLCad (no idea which color numbers are supported by Leo, Bricksmith or SR3D) which comes with very limited color (...) (16 years ago, 25-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)

Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Opinions needed for Color and Edge Values
 
(...) I've been questioned about the directions we are going with our efforts. The current plan for the LDConfig.ldr is: * Keep the core color numbers from 0-50, plus some historical colors like Black_Rubber, Chrom or Gold for backwards (...) (16 years ago, 22-Nov-08, to lugnet.cad)

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