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Subject: 
News search function temporarily disabled
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.announce
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek
Date: 
Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:34:24 GMT
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The system crashed again.  Either it's running out of memory and that's
causing a downward spiral or it's running out of CPU cycles and starving
enough processes to build up and cause a meltdown.  Either way some tuning
needs to be done.

This is going to be my top LUGNET priority until things stabilize -- they've
been shaky for the past couple of weeks.  I need to find the bottlenecks and
eliminate them.

As a first step, I've turned off the text-search function for news.  I
apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but it will help me know
how much of a bottleneck it was causing.  Its algorithm for merging results
is grossly inadequate for some of the queries it processes.

As a second step, I'm going to install a monitoring log that records the
elapsed time and CPU time of every dynamically generated webpage.  From
those results, the bottlenecks will stand out like a fistful of sore thumbs.
(Fixing them is a different matter.)

I'm taking lunch at work right now; I'll be able to install the monitoring
script quickly and then I'll have a look at the stored results later tonight.
I probably won't be able to re-activate the text-search function of news
until after replacing it with something that has better worst-case
performance.  There's a chance I may have to disable other things, like the
Mosaic Maker (if it's being used and contributing to the bottleneck -- I
don't know yet whether it is).

Sometime before the end of December, I plan also to upgrade the RAM on the
system.  In Q1 of 2001, we'll add another physical box as well.

--Todd



Message has 4 Replies:
  Re: News search function temporarily disabled
 
<nod nod> Thanks for letting us know. I'm no geek in any means, but first things first, I would limit the search. Sometimes a single search brings up thousands of posts. I suggest if the search is too broad, say it and make the searcher narrow it (...) (24 years ago, 13-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
  Re: News search function temporarily disabled
 
(...) Hi Todd, Did you ever consider a google search box? Like this one: www.sis.pitt.edu/~dist I don't know for sure, but I think that the search is done on google's server. Toki (24 years ago, 17-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
  Re: News search function temporarily disabled
 
(...) Certain bottlenecks are indeed standing out like sore thumbs. One big one is the dynamic generation of the /shop/ pages on guide.lugnet.com, and another is the dynamic generation of member-specific set lists. An even bigger one is (was) the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  News search function reactivated (was: News search function temporarily disabled)
 
The LUGNET News search function is now re-enabled. I completely revamped the index data structures and list-merge algorithm and rewrote the core query engine in C. It's a much more solid implementation. Everyone's patience during the outage is much (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.announce) !! 

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