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Hi, sorry to bother you all with this but I am hearing some disturbing news in the fourm at the Brickfilms site. The news being that the producers of a fan-film called One: A space Oddessey have been told by someone at TLG/TLC that if they (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Alex, even if these rumors were true, I doubt that that is the kind of information that TLC would be willing to share publicly-- seems to me that it is none of our business and a private matter between the producers and TLC. But as always, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Was it the film entitled "2001: A LEGO Odyssey"? Maybe TLC was just upset about the name and not about the content... (?) --Todd (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) Nope, it was One: A Space Odyssey. Two different films done by two different people. I think that LEGO is way overstepping its bounds on this one...especially if they want to foster goodwill with the fan community. -Tim (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) Can we have the link to see what's so disturbing about it. Eric. (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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"John Neal" <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message news:3ABF5935.C98C83...est.net... (...) news (...) the (...) start? (...) it (...) TLC. (...) Well even if Lego wont share the information, the guys who are being threatened by Lego are. Just read (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think this link points to what he's talking about: (URL) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) Well, as TLC provided materials, then they can stop this particular film. If someone were to use thier own Lego pieces there is nothing legally TLC could do so long as thier Logos are not used. This is at least true in the US. I am not a (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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A company cannot control what you do with a product after you've bought it. Once you own the product, it's yours to do with as you please. They especially have no say in this as they've marketed sets for the creation of these types of things. They (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yeah, this is an important point. Note what the filmmaker says in his post: "The film was completed with the cooperation of the Lego corporation and they even provided some of the materials" They made the film with official Lego materials. (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) That is good logic. There's a flip side to that logic, however: LEGO markets a kit that has really bad equipment and will allow the purchaser to make really sub-bush-league films. It probably rankles them to see someone making a good-quality (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Ah, but no one here has bought the Lego trademark, only ABS. As an analogy, I could buy a case of Sprite, but if I made a movie wherein a character visibily drank from cans of Sprite, the Coca-Cola company could be within its rights to sue me (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Those words remind me of an episode of _The Young Ones_ where Alexei Sayle's character picks up a can of Coke, saying, "Ah...Coca-Cola...symbol of the free West!" He drinks the Coke, starts freaking out, and then runs around with a hatchet (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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"TWS Garrison" <tgarriso@math.purdue.edu> wrote in message news:GAto14.Lzw@lugnet.com... (...) analogy, I (...) visibily (...) rights to (...) and (...) their (...) IMHO, (...) of (...) But if you are not reproducing their logo, only using their (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) I think Lego is more upset that he is trying to make a profit with the film. I saw nowhere that he said that Lego told him he could *not* make the film, just that he could not put it out to make a profit out of it quote from the other site: (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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Actually, I would say it's much, much different. I think a better analogy would be that if you bought Play-doh and made an animated film, certainly Fischer-Price (or whoever makes PLay-Doh) would not have the right to suppress your film. There is (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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They may have provided materials, but the creators did not sign a contract stating they would not distribute it because of this. I hate to argue this point too finely, but providing the materials has nothign to do with the copyright of the words or (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) ...did not NECESSARILY sign... (...) True, true. Not in and of themselves. But we don't *know* what contract was signed, exactly. Were I LEGO(r), I would put a clause in any contract, after the concentration camp incident, that gave me control (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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(...) <snip> (...) Quite right (assuming the resolution is too poor to distinguish the "Lego" printed on each stud ;-). Someone who uses Lego *bricks*, and identifies them only as "plastic building blocks" or something of the sort would probably be (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Snipped everything out, but... Unless you 1) use the LEGO logo; 2) present the film as official production of TLC; 3) use LEGO products in the endorsement of something else, TLC has no right to say what can and can't be done with their products. I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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I think people are missing a few key points in this discussion. Consider your average movie or television show... some of the comments made in this thread have suggested that you can't use a company's product in a movie without express permission. (...) (24 years ago, 28-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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I've had conversations with the directors of the film in question. They did NTO sign a no distribute contract. The only thing close to it is that one of the creators sent a letter to them promising he wouldn't distribute it, but this was after LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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In lugnet.publish.cinema, Matthias Jetleb writes: You know, I have noticed this. Scratch a LEGO and you can definately smell a strange odor coming from it, a very unpleasant odor. I bet as they slowly, slowy decompose that give off fumes. But since (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation)
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"Matthias Jetleb" <jetleb@netcom.ca> wrote in message news:3ac170e2.730407...net.com... (...) It seems quite the opposite in fact. Companies PAY to have their products featured. It is probably more about the prominant display of logos than the (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) It's called advertising. Cars featured in this way *sell cars* for those car companies. (...) Why in the world should TLC *pay* fans to play with their products? That would be very bad, because TLC wouldn't exist much longer with that (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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"John Neal" <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message news:3AC348E7.531E34...est.net... (...) would (...) Heheh. (...) I agree. And TLC quashing fan-made films, for profit or not, is very bad PR. At least TLC should work with fan made films and develop (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) 2.5 billion years. james (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought you wrote that there was no such thing as "a LEGO," unless you're indicating that the company's half-life is 2.5B. 8^) Dave! (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gah! My mistake, wrong James! We've achieved critical James-mass, just like we exceeded the Eric limit! Dave! (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, so much for the "slow & unnoticed" plan for world domination... James ;) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) What is the singular of Legos then? ;-) Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"John Neal" <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message news:3AC348E7.531E34...est.net... (...) would (...) Because that is called marketing. Not saying pay everyone! - just the best. If they gave the most creative builders an incentive to create (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) IANAL either, but what IMHO could be actionable by TLC would be a film about juniorization using Lego bricks to demonstrate. Just think of the depression and general negativity such a film could generate. But in all seriousness, if TLC thinks (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Further, if TLC is unhappy with the types of expression generated using their "medium," tough for them. I'm sure there are manufacturers of oil paints who don't care for the finished painting, but that's tough for them, too. Several clone (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Just make sure you refer to them as "legos" in the film. Since we've seen letters indicating that "legos" are _not_ the correct term for "LEGO brand building bricks", obviously no one would think they _were_ "LEGO brand building bricks". -gyug In (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.animation, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) No matter. Let's not monkey around any longer...We'll just crush them with the ruthless iron fist of Jamesness. james "We're not gonna teach 'em; We're gonna Learn 'em!" simpson (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Like comp.sys.sinclair out on usenet has a large number of Andys? (Really like anyone here would understand that! Ed.) Alex (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Larry - what 'concentration camp incident' was this? Jason J Railton (24 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.animation)
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"Jason J. Railton" <j.j.railton@cwcom.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GBIv2n.FCo@lugnet.com... (...) That was a fake LEGO set, made by a Polish artist. Read more about it (incl. images) at (URL) (24 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.animation)
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